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2012 AFF Suzuki Cup

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by stellarboy, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. stellarboy

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    The 9th Edition of the ASEAN Championship to be held on November 24th until December 20th, co-hosted by Thailand and Malaysia. Qualification phase on October 5th - 13th at Myanmar.

    THE TEAMS

    Six teams are directly qualified to the final tournament:
    • Malaysia (co-host, defending champions in 2010 edition)
    • Indonesia (2010 runner-up)
    • Vietnam (2010 semi-finalist)
    • Philippines (2010 semi-finalist)
    • Thailand (co-host)
    • Singapore
    The five lower-seeded teams will undergo a round-robin qualification tournament, wherein the top 2 teams will qualify for the finals.
    • Myanmar (hosts)
    • Brunei
    • Cambodia
    • Laos
    • Timor-Leste
    The final draw of the competition will be held on July 11th, 2012, at the Chaturathit Ballroom of the Golden Tulip Sovereign Hotel, Bangkok, Thailand.

    PREVIOUS WINNERS
    2004: Singapore
    2007: Singapore
    2008: Vietnam
    2010: Malaysia
     


  2. druryfire

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    And trying not to forget the other previous winners from before 2004:

    2002: Thailand
    2000: Thailand
    1998: Singapore
    1996: Thailand
     
  3. Pelefan

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    Oh how can we forget about Thailand druryfire winning all those championships? :D Just kidding mate.
     
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    Hehe, seems a long time ago though. They really do need this championship to tell everyone they are back.
     


  5. Pelefan

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    Iti is indeed a long time ago. This edition of the AFF Championship will I think be the most competitive yet. So they better bring their best team, if Thailand wants any chance of regaining it this time.
     
  6. druryfire

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    If we don't win it (on home soil) it don't matter, got the excuses ready.

    I'm sure though, no one will want Phillipines in their group. Normally you can maybe pick the top two (host and other) to make semi's, but now we have a curve ball in their.

    Going to be interesting.
     
  7. Pelefan

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    The Philippines are aiming to do better than last time and at least make the finals, but considering that player's availability is always in question as well as my lack of confidence in our coach who I feel lacks experience, I am not quite sure we can get that far. One thing for sure though, they apparently are not going to bunker up like last time. They feel they have the players now to adopt a more attack oriented system.

    Personally I think this is a mistake, as I am a big believer in the adage that defence wins championships. Of course, I do agree that bunkering at this point is no longer necessary, but maybe adopting a counterattacking style would be a more appropriate system for the personnel that they have at their disposal.

    As for Thailand, as host I think they will be pressured to do well in this tournament, which considering their pedigree and their much higher FIFA ranking, it is understandable why their fans have such high expectations.
     
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    I hope that the final will be Indonesia - Philippines.
     
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    Four pots will be drawn in tomorrow's selection:

    Pot 1: Malaysia & Thailand (hosts)
    Pot 2: Indonesia & Vietnam
    Pot 3: Philippines & Singapore
    Pot 4: Qualifier winner & qualifier runner-up.

    Final draw to be held tomorrow, July 11, at 14:00 Bangkok time.
     
  10. E_ViLL14

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    Why not dump some of that blame on the team manager? He was the one that was quick to come out and say that the target is to reach the final. The coach has never come out with such targets.

    Highly unlikely.
     
  11. E_ViLL14

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    As for the draw, it says that the teams are divided into four pots of two "based on the team rankings". Which rankings?
     
  12. Pelefan

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    My personal favorites to reach the Suzuki cup final are the groups stage hosts Thailand and Malaysia, but anyone among Vietnam, Indonesia, the Philippines and Singapore will also have chances. The tournament is wide open and this edition promises to be the most competitive yet.

    EVille

    It is not only the team manager who has raised those expectations. The PFF and several of the players have also come out saying that they aim to improve their finish from the last time when they made the semifinals. Personally in my opinion if they don't make it that far, at least they will now have no choice but look for a more experienced coach which I think is a step in the right direction for Philippine football.
     
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    AFF Suzuki Cup 2012 Draw Results

    Group A (Rajamangala Stadium, Bangkok)
    1. Thailand [host]
    2. Vietnam
    3. Philippines
    4. Winners of the Qualifying Round

    Group B (National Stadium, Bukit Jalil, Kuala Lumpur)
    1. Malaysia [host]
    2. Indonesia
    3. Singapore
    4. Runners up of the Qualifying Round
     
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    I find it very hard to get excited about the draw. There's only a handful of nations, and all tend to know everything about each other anyway.

    Disappointed about the stadiums being used though.

    In Thailand for example, they have grerat little stadiums propping up now, in Nonthaburi just north of Bangkok, Chonburi, just two hours east and Buriram a little further on. A oity these games can't be hosts aswell for the smaller games that don't have the host in action.

    I don't think Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia at this moment would need to dual host. A pity two nations like Thailand and Malaysia are really, maybe if we need two hosts, it should be a Thai-Cambodia for example venture. A big nation helping a small nation in the region of football for example?

    I know none of the organising FA's ever think to help a co-host but maybe it shouldn't be a requirement, a joint hosted competition should be jointly hosted, not like we currently have which seems two tournaments in one.
     
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    Group A is now officially the group of death in this competition, with the 3 highest ranked FIFA sides (June 2012) plus the qualifying group winner all playing in that group.
     
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    drury,

    Well at least in the case of the Philippines and Thailand, they are not quite familiar with each other. The last time the men's teams met was in the 2007 AFF championships, a 4-0 win by Thailand and the rosters were very different then.
     
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    Upcoming fixtures of Group A nations in preparation for the tournament:

    Group A

    THA:
    15 August 2012 THA vs TPL ALL STAR
    TBA THA vs Iraq *Not yet confirmed

    VIE:
    11/09/2012 (Kuala Lumpur) Malaysia - Vietnam
    15/09/2012 (Surabaya) Indonesia - Vietnam
    22/09/2012 (Hanoi) Vietnam - Indonesia
    29/09/2012 (Jakarta) Indonesia - Vietnam
    24/10/2012 (Ho Chi Minh City) Vietnam - Turkmenistan
    28/10/2012 (Ho Chi Minh City) Vietnam - Korea DPR
    03/11/2012 (Hanoi) Vietnam - Malaysia

    PHI:
    05/09/2012 (Phnom Penh) Cambodia - Philippines
    07/09/2012 (Singapore) Singapore - Philippines
    10/09/2012 (Vientiane) Laos - Philippines
    25/09/2012 (Bacolod) Philippines - Guam
    27/09/2012 (Bacolod) Philippines - Macau
    29/09/2012 (Bacolod) Philippines - Chinese Taipei
     
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    Philippines Add Singapore & Kuwait Dates To Busy AFF Build-Up

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    Thailand may be struggling to arrange friendly games before November’s AFF Suzuki Cup but group opponents Philippines have no such problems.
    The Azkals already had a full schedule leading up to the regional tournament but have added more dates to the diary.
    Games against Kuwait in October and Singapore in November will now give coach Michael Weiss even more of a chance to see what his players can do.
    Philippines already have one match planned against Singapore on September, a game sandwiched between clashes with Cambodia and Laos – all three are away games.
    There is also a tough task of a game against Bahrain in October.
    Philippines will be especially keen to defeat Kuwait and get some revenge for the fact that their quest to qualify for the 2014 World Cup was ended by the West Asians.
    The Philippines are also facing Guam, Macau and Chinese Taipei in a mini tournament in Manila at the end of September as stellarboy listed above.​
    So far the results for the Azkals are ​
    Philippines 0-0 Cambodia​
    Philippines 2-0 Singapore​
     
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    RT @affsuzukicup: For those outside the region we are working with One World Sports (USA) and UStream/Youtube to provide live streaming.
     
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    2012 AFF Suzuki Cup qualification:

    05 October:
    Cambodia v Timor-Leste
    Myanmar v Brunei

    07 October:
    Timor-Leste v Myanmar
    Laos v Cambodia

    09 October:
    Cambodia v Brunei
    Timor-Leste v Laos

    11 October:
    Brunei v Laos
    Myanmar v Cambodia

    13 October:
    Laos v Myanmar
    Brunei v Timor-Leste

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    Myanmar & Laos are the heavy favourites to qualify, but with the rise of Timor-Leste, the team can pull off surprises and contest the spot with Laos and Cambodia as the runners-up.
     
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    o_O
     
  24. happy

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    Timor Leste will win the qualifiers

    Their players are far bigger in size & physical strength than all the teams in the grp.

    Just watching Cambodia play them, it looked boys against men as they cnnt match the Timor Leste players who just push them aside.

    Even Myanmar will hve a tough time matching the Timor Leste physical superiority

    Indeed no need to send in corner or free kick or any cross as they will be clear away.
     
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    You're definitely right, happy. As we have observed lately since last year's South East Asian Games, the Timor Leste team are fairly young, with some of them with Brazilian heritage, and one of them even has playing experience in the A-League. They're definitely taller and stronger compared to their opponents in the qualifiers. I think they will surely be the proverbial dark horse of this tournament.

    Should they qualify, they can definitely give the higher-ranked teams a run for the title, especially co-hosts Thailand and Malaysia. It will be interesting, though, how will they fare up with the Philippines, with a handful of their players having experience in the European leagues, and with the same physical stock as them. Should be something worth watching.
     

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