Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by Txtriathlete, Jun 6, 2012.
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Jabbari out of Qatar clash
Iran training before the Qatar match
Anyway, who sets the time for the games? AFC or the home country?? I'm gussing the home country, unless the games are to be played at the same time. If the home country is picking the times than it's very unfair. Some countries aren't used to playing in hell like temperatures and there is no sense in having the games in afternoons when it can be played in the evenings.
Edit by Tex: New thread, means NOTHING from the last thread carries over.
i think the afc decides the timing because it wants to maximise tv coverage
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Well, it is interesting to see that Qatar and South Korea is a game that will have tension and both teams will want the win. That just makes it better for the other teams
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Can't wait to see the game vs Qatar. I expect Korea will dominate the game.
Just like they dominated Lebanon away, right?
If their condition is good then it wil be hard for Qatar to gain possession. watch out for Ki sung yueng ang koo ja cheol, they can create a lot of chances which can lead to a goal.
Qatar's playing style has changed under Autuori which makes it harder for them to lose possession.
Also, South Korea's form isn't the best away from home, so I don't think that they will be dominating. Since the 2011 Asian Cup, they only won 1 out of 6 matches away from home. They'll be playing away, in front of a large crowd in harsh weather conditions against a team coming off a victory away from home. Should be an interesting match regardless of the outcome.
Stats are nothing when in an actual game. Koreans are very experience in this kind of situation. I think it won't be a problem for them playing in harsh weather and large crowd. In an interview, one of our player said that weather isn't a big factor in this game. They are professionals. They can handle it.
But I was referring to their most recent away games... it does mean something. Three of those were in the group stages of WCQ, and they only won a single away game against bottom side UAE (thanks to goals in the 88th and 93rd minute, nonetheless).
Weather will not be a much of an influencing factor in the game itself seeing as the stadium is air conditioned. Away form should be concerning though. I doubt there will be much 'dominating', even if they do manage to pull out a win.
It's because we have a new coach right now and he is a good coach in terms of tactics. It's like a fast tempo game with complicated passing and killer passes that can lead to a goal. It's basically jeonbuk motors style but with different and good players.
But hey that just my opinion. Who knows what will happen tomorrow. Wish all good luck to qatar and Korea.
GL to both. I'm sure whatever happens, it will be an entertaining game.
I have a golden rule. Which is:
There should always be sesame cake.
Cant really apply it to an internet forum though.
I initially predicted a Korea domination of Qatar. Or them having the edge and control possession, maybe domination is too strong of a word.
But after thoroughly thinking it over, Im not sure. Its because I have no clue of the current form of the South Korea team. To be honest they didnt really impress all that much last round, but still got the job done. Plus no Park Chu Young invited, which is dumb. They need all the edge they can get.
And Qatar is a good team, because they have very physical players and with their new coach they seem to have taken a turn to the better. I'll have to see how they do against very tough opposition like Korea.
I also just watched Lebanon-Qatar (the whole match) and Qatar can definetely be a tough nut to crack. They beat Lebanon, something which not only South Korea failed to do, but even lost.
I predicted a 3-1 score for Korea, so Ill just stick to that. Dont like changing predictions. But I realise the reality come tomorrow in terms of match picture could be very different and that goes for the final outcome as well.
I think Qatar NEEDS to be physical tomorrow. They can't try to play like Barcelona and just pass the damn ball around and try to launch counter-attacks like they tried against Lebanon. If we saw them physically challenge the Koreans, it would disrupt their rhythm and reduce the efectiveness of their counter-attacks. I'm confident Autuori will pick the best strategy for the team, but he should try to bring in larger defenders than he brought out against Lebanon.
I think that the match may be decided by just how physical Qatar is, and whether they make smart challenges or not. I didn't watch the entire Lebanon-Korea match, but Lebanon is a phyiscal team, especially at home, and that might have had something to do with their victory.
I predicted a 1-1 draw, and I'm standing by that because I think a draw is the most likely result. However, I think as a neutral fan, if a team were to win it, Korea would probably have more of a chance than Qatar.
Yes I agree that Qatar needs to be physical and disrupt their rhythm. They should not push back (like Iran did against Uzbekistan) entirely and let Koreans dictate the match picture. Good chance that's what will happen but Qatar should really try press up the field and bother them at their own half, otherwise you may end up giving them too much space, which is what they love. Shut down the flanks. Off course all this is easier said than done, but if Qatar does that then Korea will have a very hard time.
Qatar best chance is to score from set-pieces. So a guy like Fabio Cesar should start for that reason alone, because he is good at taking freekicks and corners.
Korea is missing three key players in Park Chuyoung [Arsenal, personal matters], Lee Chungyong [Bolton, ankle], and Hong Jungho [Jeju United, knee]. Those three would be starters in Brazil if Korea makes it. Let's see if Qatar can capitalize.
It's not like the Korean NT lacks depth. I wasn't aware of the other two absentees besides PCY. It seems that if any time was the time to get points out of Korea, its now. I hope they can capitalize and not stupidly throw an advantageous situation out the window.
You notice how Barcelona tends to falter against teams like Getafe and Athletic Bilbao? Meaning they struggle against opponents the same size as them, but will beat teams larger than them. The reason is that the technical style of play only works if you are much better at your opponent than it. Over the years the "Tik Tak" style of Barcelona works against teams like Man Utd, Real, and AC Milan because those teams have a physical advantage. A physical team trying to play in a technical style will not work most of the time against a smaller technical side.
What I observe in Iran games is that whenever we play North Korea, Japan, South Korea or any team in Asia that relies on Technical skills, we always succeed when slowing the game down with physical challenges. This game plan was most evident against Japan in 2005 when Iran won in Azadi 2-1. Every minute you could see veterans like Mahdavikia telling the players to slow the game down with a hand motion.
Implementing Quieroz's tactic of waiting for the team to tire and then counterattack might not work since most of these players on South Korea have world class fitness. Qatar would do better to rely on set pieces, corners, and crosses.
South Korea's key to victory is possession. Maintain possession long enough to score. If that is done, kill the game off. Pass the ball around, continue attacking, DO NOT FALL BACK but possibly bring in a midfielder instead of an attacker to dictate the game more. Tomorrow both teams will definitely get exhausted since Koreans will be going against the physically strong Qatari's and Qatar will be against the speedy Koreans. A mistake caused by this fatigue could be the deciding factor in the winning goal, much like Iran's goal was due to the fatigue of the Uzbek CB in tackling the ball away instead of chasing after it.
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