3. Liga 2011/2012 [R]

Discussion in 'Germany' started by Hobo, Jul 23, 2010.

  1. Alex_K

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    Their president and main sponsor owns a construction company. Additionally some other local companies have recently started to give money. Some might remember Sandhausen as the club Hopp originally wanted to merge Hoffenheim with, before Sandhausen decided to do it on it's own. They don't have as deep pockets as Hoffenheim, and actually have quite a long history as a high level amateur club - still, their team consists mostly of former st and 2nd Bundesliga players, who probably didn't go there just for the scenery.


  2. goindownsouth

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    This week sometime. Promise.

    Actually, I may wear it to a local road race sometime in the next few months.
  3. Lupin III

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    Are Sandhausen near Mannheim and Ludwigchafen? They played some matches in Ludwigschafen I remember.

    If so they are also tapping sponsors that originally belonged to the Waldhoff realm, but because they are doing so poorly invests in Sandhausen???
  4. Alex_K

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    About 25 km away, it's on the outskirts of Heidelberg. I don't think Sandhausen ever played homegames in Ludwigshafen (Mannheim did, though).

    I don't think so - their main sponsor is based in Sandhausen, and I have never heard from him being a Waldhof sponsor before. I don't know about every individual sponsor, but Waldhof has been in constant financial troubles for decades anyway.


  5. HSV-Jung

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    Seems like we have something in common after all. I live in Darmstadt and count myself among the 98-fans, although I only made it out to one of the games this year. I very much hope they can gain a sure foothold in the third league, their performances so far are promising.
    The lilies have big money problems and are looking to the city to help them out. The city has already done so to a certain extent although I think this is the wrong way to go. Darmstadt city is broke and the schools and pools are run-down, no need to sponsor a private club with taxpayer money. Still very much hope they come out all right.
  6. Lupin III

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    Can you explain to me what was about those money for stadium the city wanted paid back?
  7. HSV-Jung

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    It's a long story, but in short it goes like this: For several years preceding 2008 the club had been living above its means financially and ran up quite a debt. In 2008 they filed for insolvency and were forced to clean up their act. They did a fairly good job of this and ever since 2009 (retraction of the application for insolvency) they've been on the up and up financially as well as as a sports team. As of this summer, their principal creditor is the city of Darmstadt with a debt of approx. EUR 700,000 owed. This debt was incurred mostly for two new artificial lawn pitches for the youth teams to train on and the new lighting system. The new lighting cost roughly EUR 300,000 and was a requirement for the admission to play in the third league (more light needed for night games to be broadcast on television).
    In late spring/early summer, over the euphoria of the promotion to the third league, it looked like the city might remit the entire debt, but in the meantime there have been elections, there is a new mayor and a new ruling party in the city and the city has officially gone broke, so they had to change the strategy on the sponsorship. This was also because the city could no longer make all of its financial decisions on its own but had to have approval from the next higher level (regional authorities). As indicated in my previous post, it is being argued that with all the holes to plug in the city, sponsorship of a professional club cannot be among the priorities.
    At the same time you can argue that the club specifically used the borrowed money to build new pitches for the youth teams (i.e. youth sponsorship, not the professional team) and that around the same time, the state of Hesse pitched in roughly 10 million for the new Kickers Offenbach stadium. Depending on how you look at the situation it seems grossly unfair. But I believe that when it comes to money, things are never fair in soccer. So I've reserved my complaints in this regard for clubs who waste money.
    As far as I understand, it looks like the city will end up paying for the lighting and the rest of the debt will be interest-free until 2013, but then they will have to pay it. In comparison to other third league teams they are actually not doing too bad financially and their game attendance average is higher than the third league average also (roughly 8,000 per game, now in the third league). If they can keep all this up, along with the sport performance (stay in the league) they should be fine, but they will have to wait for a new stadium.
    An acquaintance of mine knows a lot about the internal goings on of the club and there is actually an option on the table under which they would sell the prime property on which they are sitting and go outside of the city a bit, to build new from scratch, but all that is Zukunftsmusik.
    Here is a fairly recent article on the matter in German:
    http://www.da-imnetz.de/sport/darmstadt-98/stadt-will-780000-euro-darmstadt-98-1464030.html
  8. Lupin III

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    Interesting thanks for the info, but if Darmstadt moves out of Darmstadt they wouldnt be Darmstadt? just another Frankfurt team?

    btw. How Comes Hessen Kassel did so well last year with so many fans in average, and this year both average and results seems to have imploded?
  9. Alex_K

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    I'm pretty sure he means building a stadium in the suburbs, not moving out of town literally.

    The team already imploded last year - why they play badly? Well, if I knew and could tell them how to play better I guess they'd offer me a job as coach.

    As for the fans - last year they played for promotion most of the season. This year, their season is already over before the winter break, the team plays not exactly great football by all accounts, they mostly play reserve sides and village clubs that don't inspire much interest, their main rival got promoted and they don't have that derby anymore... so quite a few people chose to sit the season out probably.
  10. HSV-Jung

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    The guy I was talking to was talking about a place right outside of the city limits, Darmstadt isn't that big. But this was merely an option people were discussing. If you ask me we'll make do with the old stadium without any major alterations for at least another ten years.
  11. goindownsouth

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    Amazing, Regensburg finds themselves top right now and looking good doing it!
  12. Alex_K

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    I updated my list of foreign players in the 3. Liga:

    Code:
    By country
    
    Turkey 38
    
    Austria 20
    
    France 18
    
    Bosnia and Herzegovina 12
    Italy 12
    
    Czech Republic 11
    Netherlands 11
    Serbia 11
    
    Croatia 10
    
    Albania 7
    
    Belgium 6
    Nigeria 6
    
    Argentina 5
    Brazil 5
    Congo DR 5
    Ghana 5
    
    Canada 4
    Hungary 4
    Poland 4
    Spain 4
    Switzerland 4
    United States 4
    
    Bulgaria 3
    Denmark 3
    Greece 3
    Morocco 3
    Sweden 3
    
    Cameroon 2
    Congo 2
    Finland 2
    Ivory Coast 2
    Japan 2
    Lithuania 2
    Norway 2
    Portugal 2
    Romania 2
    Senegal 2
    Ukraine 2
    
    Afghanistan 1
    Algeria 1
    Angola 1
    Australia 1
    Ecuador 1
    England 1
    Iceland 1
    Iraq 1
    Ireland (Rep. of) 1
    Israel 1
    Korea Republic 1
    Lebanon 1
    Luxembourg 1
    Macedonia 1
    Malawi 1
    Malta 1
    Netherlands Antilles 1
    New Zealand 1
    Northern Ireland 1
    Russia 1
    Slovakia 1
    Slovenia 1
    Togo 1
    Tunisia 1
    Zambia 1 
    
    Afghanistan
    
    Salem, Milad (3-3-1988)* – SV Wehen
    
    Albania
    
    Bektasi, Scipon (9-14-1990) – 1. FC Heidenheim
    Curri, Skerdilaid (10-6-1975) – Erzgebirge Aue
    Ismaili, Emin (5-31-1982) – FC Ingolstadt 04
    Kacani, Sokol (2-16-1984) – Stuttgarter Kickers
    Kastrati, Bekim (3-25-1979)* – Fortuna Düsseldorf, Dynamo Dresden
    Marina, Enver (1-27-1977) – 1. FC Saarbrücken
    Vata, Fatmir (9-20-1971)* - Wuppertaler SV
    
    Algeria
    
    Benyamina, Karim (12-18-1981)* - Union Berlin
    
    Angola
    
    Vunguidica, José Pierre (1-3-1990)* - Kickers Offenbach, Preußen Münster
    
    Argentina
    
    Cenci, Matias Esteban (2-12-1978) – SV Sandhausen
    Fioretto, Nahuel (1-25-1981) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Formento, Andrès Miguel (5-18-1984) – Wuppertaler SV, Jahn Regensburg
    Grech, LEANDRO (10-24-1980) – SV Sandhausen, SpVgg Unterhaching, VfR Aalen
    Lorenzón, Víctor Hugo (5-22-1977) – Wuppertaler SV
    
    Australia
    
    Susak, Milan (1-29-1984) - SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Austria
    
    Alaba, David (6-24-1992)* - Bayern München II
    Aschauer, Alexander (3-14-1992) – VfB Stuttgart II
    Berger, Denis (4-14-1983) – Jahn Regensburg, Kickers Offenbach
    Derdak, Patrick (2-16-1990) – Werder Bremen II
    Fuchs, Benjamin (10-20-1983) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Harnik, Martin (6-10-1987)* - Werder Bremen II
    Holzhauser, Raphael (2-16-1993) – VfB Stuttgart II
    Holzmann, Marcel (9-3-1990) – Bayern München II
    Hosiner, Philipp (5-15-1989) – SV Sandhausen
    Knasmüllner, Christoph (4-30-1992) – Bayern München II
    Krisch, Kevin (8-20-1991) – Werder Bremen II
    Michl, Andreas (1-29-1980) – Wacker Burghausen
    Mimm, Dennis (3-18-1983) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Mujic, Deniz (8-7-1990) – Bayern München II
    Pauli, Christian (1-30-1992) – VfL Osnabrück
    Prödl, Sebastian (6-21-1987)* - Werder Bremen II
    Sand, Marc (1-23-1988) – Dynamo Dresden
    Sikorski, Daniel (11-2-1987) – Bayern München II
    Stöger, Kevin (8-27-1993) – VfB Stuttgart II
    Walch, Clemens (7-10-1987) – VfB Stuttgart II
    
    Belgium
    
    Andersen, Kristoffer (12-9-1985) – VfR Aalen
    Lawarée, Axel (10-9-1973) – Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Lejan, Michael (5-2-1983) – Wuppertaler SV, VfL Osnabrück
    Moosmayer, Tom (10-1-1979) – Kickers Emden, Kickers Offenbach
    Rauw, Bernd (1-8-1980) – Kickers Emden, RW Erfurt
    van Buyten, Daniel (2-7-1978)* - Bayern München II
    
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    
    Celikovic, Nermin (11-27-1980) – Wuppertaler SV
    Civa, Almedin (4-27-1972) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Fejzic, Jasmin (5-15-1986) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Hajdarovic, Nazif (9-22-1984) – Bayern München II
    Hasanbegovic, Nedim (4-22-1988) – Borussia Dortmund II, RW Oberhausen
    Janjic, Zlatko (5-7-1986) – SV Wehen
    Mehic, Sead (4-8-1975) – Kickers Offenbach
    Mesic, Mirnes (3-16-1978) – Kickers Offenbach
    Okic, Branko (2-16-1969) – VfR Aalen
    Selimbegovic, Mersad (4-29-1982) – Jahn Regensburg
    Spahic, Jasmin (9-22-1980) – Kickers Emden
    Vrancic, Damir (10-4-1985) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    
    Brazil
    
    Rodrigues da Silva, CIDIMAR (7-1-1984) – VfR Aalen
    DA COSTA Junior, Elton (12-15-1979) – Kickers Offenbach
    MINORELLI, Daniel Pedro (7-31-1984) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    ROCKENBACH da Silva, Thiago (2-1-1985) – Rot-Weiß Erfurt
    Villar, Ricardo (8-11-1979) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Bulgaria
    
    Aleksandrov, Mihail (6-11-1989) – Borussia Dortmund II
    Chokchev, Kiril (5-26-1982) – Wacker Burghausen
    Rangelov, Dimitar (2-9-1983)* – Borussia Dortmund II
    
    Cameroon
    
    Akama-Eseme, Glen (4-3-1987) – Wuppertaler SV
    Kioyo, Francis (9-18-1979)* - SV Wehen
    
    Canada
    
    Bourgault, Jonathan (9-27-1988)* – Preußen Münster
    Ledgerwood, Nikolas (1-16-1985)* - SV Wehen
    O'Neill, Riley (9-9-1985) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Occéan, Olivier (10-23-1981)* - Kickers Offenbach
    
    Congo
    
    Guié-Mien, Rolf-Christel (10-28-1977)* – SC Paderborn 07
    Sembolo, Francky (8-9-1985)* - Holstein Kiel
    
    Congo DR
    
    Kumbela, Dominick (4-20-1984) - SC Paderborn 07, Eintracht Braunschweig
    Lukimya, Assani (1-25-1986)* - CZ Jena
    Lukunku, Ali (4-14-1976)* – Erzgebirge Aue
    Menga, Addy-Waku (9-28-1983)* – Werder Bremen II, SV Wehen
    Mimbala, Cédric (8-22-1986)* – RW Ahlen
    
    Croatia
    
    Antunovic, Adrijan (4-27-1989) - Union Berlin
    Cosic, Ivan (10-13-1989) – Bayern München II
    Grgic, Velimir (5-11-1978) – SV Sandhausen, 1. FC Saarbrücken
    Janic, Sasa (5-7-1975) – Stuttgarter Kickers
    Kolinger, Dubravko (11-29-1975) – VfB Stuttgart II
    Kopilas, Marko (7-22-1983) – Kickers Offenbach
    Kovac, Marko (1-6-1987) – Stuttgarter Kickers
    Kovacevic, Marijan (8-31-1973) – VfB Stuttgart II
    Landeka, Josip (4-28-1987) – Stuttgarter Kickers, SV Wehen, CZ Jena
    Maric, Marijo (1-12-1977)* - VfR Aalen
    
    Czech Republic
    
    Abraham, Martin (9-20-1978) – SV Wehen
    Dobry, Pavel (2-1-1976) – Dynamo Dresden, Chemnitzer FC
    Hudec, Martin (4-15-1982) – VfL Osnabrück
    Hysky, Martin (9-25-1975) – Kickers Offenbach
    Lastovka, Josef (2-20-1982) – Wacker Burghausen
    Pergl, Pavel (11-14-1977) – Dynamo Dresden
    Ruman, Petr (11-2-1976) – VfR Aalen
    Simak, Jan (10-13-1978)* - CZ Jena
    Smisek, Petr (1-22-1978) – Rot-Weiß Erfurt
    Stoilov, Petr (8-30-1975) – Wacker Burghausen
    Tyce, Roman (5-7-1977)* - SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Denmark
    
    Granskov-Hansen, Andreas (3-5-1989) – Werder Bremen II
    Jensen, Kasper (10-7-1982) – SC Paderborn 07
    Nygaard, Marc (9-1-1976)* - SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Ecuador
    
    Valencia, José (3-19-1982) – Wuppertaler SV
    
    England
    
    Tyler, Rhys (9-18-1992) – Rot-Weiß Erfurt
    
    Finland
    
    Hjelm, Jonne (1-14-1988) – SV Wehen
    Lagerblom, Pekka (10-19-1982)* - VfB Stuttgart II
    
    France
    
    Begeorgi, Fabrice (4-20-1987) – Werder Bremen II
    Bochud, Hervé (11-15-1980) – CZ Jena
    Bolivard, Malick (6-17-1987) – Hansa Rostock, SV Babelsberg 03
    Bouadoud, Zouhair (7-12-1986) – VfR Aalen
    Custos, Bruno (4-29-1977) – Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Dorn, Régis (12-22-1979) – SV Sandhausen
    Halet, Clement (5-21-1984) - Fortuna Düsseldorf, Preußen Münster
    Humbert, Julien (6-23-1984) – Rot-Weiß Erfurt
    Imbongo Boele, Dimitry (3-28-1990) – SV Darmstadt 98
    Imbs, Yannick (7-3-1985) – SV Sandhausen
    Keita-Ruel, Daniel (9-21-1989) – Wuppertaler SV
    Kornetzky, Jean-François (7-28-1982) – SV Sandhausen
    Le Tallec, Damien (4-19-1990) – Borussia Dortmund II
    Morabit, Smail (7-5-1988) - Eintracht Braunschweig, RW Erfurt
    Nelson, Mickael (2-2-1990) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Sene, Saer (11-4-1986) – Bayern München II
    Ulm, David (6-30-1984) – Kickers Offenbach, SV Sandhausen
    Zydko, Jonathan (1-12-1984) – 1. FC Saarbrücken
    
    Ghana
    
    Agyemang, Eric (1-11-1980) – Erzgebirge Aue, Wacker Burghausen, Arminia Bielefeld
    Aidoo, Lawrence (1-14-1982)* – Kickers Emden
    Gambo, Bashiru (9-24-1978)* – Stuttgarter Kickers, Erzgebirge Aue, Jahn Regensburg
    Ofosu-Ayeh, Phil (9-15-1991) – RW Erfurt
    Saba, Christian (12-29-1978)* - Bayern München II
    
    Greece
    
    Matsoukas, Eleftherios (3-7-1990) – Werder Bremen II
    Pappas, Dimitrios (2-25-1980) – RW Oberhausen
    Triadis, Panagiotis (9-9-1992) – SV Wehen
    
    Hungary
    
    Hajnal, Tamás (3-15-1981)* - Borussia Dortmund II
    Futacs, Marko (2-22-1990) – Werder Bremen II
    Schultz, Levente (3-22-1977) – Wacker Burghausen
    Szücs, László (3-14-1991) – Jahn Regensburg
    
    Iceland
    
    Gunnlaugsson, Garðar Bergmann (4-25-1983) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Iraq
    
    Sindi, Karoj (8-21-1989) – Wuppertaler SV
    
    Ireland (Rep. of)
    
    Kohlmann, Patrick (2-25-1983) - Union Berlin
    
    Israel
    
    Edri, Shlomi (5-29-1982) – CZ Jena
    
    Italy
    
    Amirante, Salvatore (6-24-1984) – CZ Jena
    Barletta, Angelo (2-11-1977) – VfL Osnabrück
    Belleri, Alessandro (2-10-1985) – Wacker Burghausen
    Calamita, Marco (3-22-1983) - Wacker Burghausen, Eintracht Braunschweig, VfR Aalen
    Cannata, Giovanni (9-17-1985) – Kickers Emden
    Sansone, Nicola (9-10-1991) – Bayern München II
    Soriano, Elia (6-26-1989) – VfR Aalen
    Terranova, Mike (11-17-1976) – RW Oberhausen
    Toni, Luca (5-26-1977)* - Bayern München II
    Vaccaro, Angelo (10-4-1981) – Stuttgarter Kickers
    Valentini, Enrico (2-20-1989) – VfR Aalen
    Vecchione, Felice (1-22-1991) – VfB Stuttgart II
    
    Ivory Coast
    
    Damahou, Joel (1-28-1987) – Kickers Offenbach
    Yohoua, Serge (3-22-1989) – RW Erfurt
    
    Japan
    
    Asaeda, Ken (7-27-1983) – Wuppertaler SV
    Kikuchi, Naoya (11-24-1984)* - CZ Jena
    
    Korea Republic
    
    Kim, Tae-Jin (4-12-1990) – RW Oberhausen
    
    Lebanon
    
    Najdi, Mahmout (1-1-1989) – Wuppertaler SV
    
    Lithuania
    
    Guscinas, Dimitrijus (12-12-1975)* - Holstein Kiel
    Palionis, Markus (5-12-1987)* - Dynamo Dresden
    
    Luxembourg
    
    Martino, Massimo (9-18-1990)* – Wuppertaler SV
    
    Macedonia
    
    Ismaili, Shaban (5-2-1989) – VfB Stuttgart II
    
    Malawi
    
    Chitsulo, Daniel (3-7-1983)* – Preußen Münster
    
    Malta
    
    Schembri, André (5-27-1986)* - CZ Jena
    
    Morocco
    
    Amachaibou, Abdenour (1-22-1987) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Bouhaddouz, Aziz (3-30-1987) – Erzgebirge Aue, SV Wehen
    Mokhtari, Youssef (3-5-1979)* – Wacker Burghausen
    
    Netherlands
    
    Braber, Robert (11-9-1982) – FC Ingolstadt 04
    Deul, Boy (8-30-1987) – Bayern München II
    El Berkani, Mohammed (12-13-1982) – Erzgebirge Aue
    Heeren, Henri (10-25-1974) - Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Holwijn, Melvin (1-2-1980) – CZ Jena
    Idabdelhay, Fouad (5-2-1988) – VfL Osnabrück
    John, Paddy (2-23-1990) – VfL Osnabrück
    Lanzaat, Quido (9-30-1979) – CZ Jena, SV Wehen
    Muhamadu, Ibad (2-22-1982) – Dynamo Dresden
    Schulp, Dennis (1-18-1978) – Wuppertaler SV
    Tunjic, Mijo (2-24-1988) – Stuttgarter Kickers, SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Netherlands Antilles
    
    Smeekes, Orlando (12-28-1981)* – Stuttgarter Kickers, CZ Jena, SV Wehen
    
    New Zealand
    
    Marinovic, Stefan (10-7-1991) – SV Wehen
    
    Nigeria
    
    Gyasi, Jeff (1-4-1989) – RW Oberhausen
    Olumide, Joseph (10-10-1987) – Wacker Burghausen
    Omodiagbe, Darlington (7-2-1978) – Wacker Burghausen
    Onuegbu, Kingsley (3-5-1986) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Onwuzuruike, Henry (12-26-1979) – SV Darmstadt 98
    Torunarigha, Junior (4-18-1990) – RW Oberhausen
    
    Northern Ireland
    
    Boyce, Liam (4-8-1991) – Werder Bremen II
    
    Norway
    
    Gundersen, Tore Andreas (2-4-1986) – Dynamo Dresden
    Herrem, Geir Andre (11-28-1988) – SV Babelsberg 03
    
    Poland
    
    Blacha, David (10-22-1990) – RW Ahlen, SV Sandhausen
    Kos, Tomasz (4-4-1974)* - Erzgebirge Aue
    Pollok, Wojciech (6-25-1982) – Preußen Münster
    Tyrala, Sebastian (2-22-1988)* - Borussia Dortmund II
    
    Portugal
    
    Pinto, Roberto (8-22-1978) – SV Sandhausen
    Soares PINHEIRO, Ricardo “RICKY” (2-1-1989) – VfL Osnabrück
    
    Romania
    
    Nastase, Valentin (10-4-1974)* - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Popa, Ruben (3-22-1989) – Jahn Regensburg
    
    Russia
    
    Belyaev, Ivan (5-26-1986) – Holstein Kiel
    
    Senegal
    
    N'Diaye, Babacar (12-12-1973) – Preußen Münster
    Tavarez, Jean Louis (4-4-1972) – Wuppertaler SV
    
    Serbia
    
    Damjanovic, Jovan (10-4-1982) – SC Paderborn 07, SV Wehen
    Jovanovic, Ranisav (11-5-1980) – Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Jovanovic, Velimir (8-25-1987) – CZ Jena
    Kadrijaj, Valonis (3-23-1992) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Morina, Ismail (4-1-1990) – Jahn Regensburg
    Ramaj, Alban (11-8-1985) – Kickers Emden, Erzgebirge Aue
    Ristic, Sreto (2-7-1976) – SV Sandhausen
    Sadrijaj, Bajram (8-10-1986) – Borussia Dortmund II
    Stevanovic, Aleksandar (2-16-1992) – Werder Bremen II
    Stevanovic, Predrag (3-3-1991) – Werder Bremen II
    Vujanovic, Radovan (2-18-1982) – Hansa Rostock, Preußen Münster
    
    Slovakia
    
    Bencík, Henrich (10-4-1978)* - VfL Osnabrück
    
    Slovenia
    
    Kampl, Kevin (10-9-1990) – VfL Osnabrück
    
    Spain
    
    Copado, Francisco (7-19-1974) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Fiel, Cristian (3-12-1980) – Dynamo Dresden
    LEÓN Ayarza, DIEGO (1-16-1984) – Wacker Burghausen 
    Mendez, Alberto (10-24-1974) – SV Sandhausen
    
    Sweden
    
    Avdic, Denni (9-5-1988)* - Werder Bremen II
    Lewicki, Oscar (7-14-1992) – Bayern München II
    Razic, Esad (7-27-1982) – RW Oberhausen
    
    Switzerland
    
    Bader, Pascal (9-24-1982) – VfR Aalen
    Bunjaku, Albert (11-29-1983)* - Rot-Weiß Erfurt
    Hebib, Zlatko (12-18-1990) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Satilmis, Dilaver (2-24-1979) – Wacker Burghausen
    
    Togo
    
    Salifou, Moustapha (6-1-1983)* - 1. FC Saarbrücken
    
    Tunisia
    
    Braham, Najeh (5-20-1977)* - Erzgebirge Aue
    
    Turkey
    
    Acar, Tunay (4-30-1989) – SV Wehen
    Albayrak, Ugur (6-8-1988) – Kickers Offenbach
    Altin, Salih (7-17-1987) – Wuppertaler SV
    Altintop, Hamit (12-8-1982)* - Bayern München II
    Aydemir, Selim (10-26-1990) - Eintracht Braunschweig, Chemnitzer FC
    Ayik, Onur (1-28-1990) – Werder Bremen II
    Balkan, Orkan (3-12-1987) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Bayrak, Serdar (8-27-1985) – Erzgebirge Aue
    Boztepe, Mehmet (1-16-1988) – Borussia Dortmund II
    Budak, Ismail (7-8-1992) – VfL Osnabrück
    Cakir, Hamza (9-30-1985) - Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Celik, Erdal (1-1-1988) – RW Ahlen
    Demirkiran, Ünal (6-24-1979) – 1. FC Heidenheim
    Dogan, Deniz (10-20-1979) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Ekici, Mehmet (3-25-1990)* – Bayern München II
    Erdem, Alparslan (12-11-1988) – Werder Bremen II
    Ergirdi, Ümit (11-5-1981) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Güral, Emre (4-5-1989) – Jahn Regensburg
    Güvenisik, Sercan (3-1-1980) – SC Paderborn 07, Preußen Münster
    Islamoglu, Cem (9-4-1980) – SV Darmstadt 98
    Kadah, Deniz (3-2-1986) – Fortuna Düsseldorf
    Kanca, Ömer (12-24-1989) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    Keseroglu, Abdullah (2-7-1988) – VfL Osnabrück
    Koc, Süleyman (6-9-1989) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Köse, Bahattin (8-26-1990) – Arminia Bielefeld
    Köz, Cüneyt (10-12-1992) – Bayern München II
    Özbek, Ufuk (9-1-1992) – 1. FC Saarbrücken
    Öztürk, Aykut (11-7-1987) – SV Wehen, CZ Jena, SV Sandhausen
    Parmak, Mustafa (5-19-1982) – Stuttgarter Kickers
    Siga, Deniz (2-1-1989) – Rot-Weiß Erfurt
    Sulu, Aytac (12-11-1985) - VfR Aalen
    Tosunoglu, Tufan (7-22-1988) – Kickers Offenbach
    Turan, Emre (11-16-1990) – Eintracht Braunschweig
    Uca, Burak (12-8-1992) – Wuppertaler SV
    Yigitusagi, Fatih (11-23-1983) – Erzgebirge Aue
    Yildirim, Ramazan (9-7-1975) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Yilmaz, Fatih (3-5-1989) - Eintracht Braunschweig
    Yilmaz, Yasin (2-19-1989) – SpVgg Unterhaching
    
    Ukraine
    
    Makarenko, Anton (8-22-1988) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Shynder, Anton (6-13-1987) – VfR Aalen, Jahn Regensburg
    
    United States
    
    Igwe, Amaechi (5-20-1988) – SV Babelsberg 03
    Joy, Ian Paul (7-14-1981) – FC Ingolstadt 04
    Taylor, Matthew (10-17-1981) – RW Ahlen
    Zimmerman, Preston (11-21-1988) – SV Darmstadt 98
    
    Zambia
    
    Sichone, Moses (5-31-1977)* - VfR Aalen, CZ Jena
  13. Alex_K

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    So Haching has an Arabian investor now? Arabian investors have totally jumped the shark. Who's next, VSK Osterholz-Scharmbeck?
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    Just got back from the Darmstadt - Babelsberg game and stood in the pouring rain for an hour. Still, Darmstadt won 3:1 and will definitely stay in the league. Great job from the lilies.
    Also took the liberty early last week of welcoming a colleague of mine who is a great Alemannia Aachen fan to 3. Bundesliga. For some reason he wasn't as thrilled as I was. If things keep going the way they are, 3. Bundesliga may be joined by some very prominent teams next season: Karlsruhe, Rostock and Alemannia.
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    Congratulations to Sandhausen on winning the 3.Liga.
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    I'd prefer it if they had the decency to voluntarily stay in the third division, though. Sandhausen and Aalen, and possibly even Regensburg, going up is kind of the worst case scenario for the 2. Bundesliga.
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    The problem tho is....what teams in BL 3 would you rather have go up?
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    Of those at the top of the table: Offenbach, Chemnitz, Erfurt

    Not taking into account the standings: Darmstadt, Münster, Offenbach maybe (don't like Offenbach much, but that's quite the old school theme going on with those three together).

    Saarbrücken, Jena, Osnabrück, Bielefeld would be ok as well. And if it HAS to be a Southern German village team without any history in the upper leagues - Heidenheim beats both Aalen and Sandhausen there by miles, they actually have some kind of fan base at least.
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    How far will Jena fall?
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    Well, Regionalliga obviously, if they get relegated. For a change they have no license problems it seems, so since some other teams aren't sure to get one yet (VfL Osnabrück seem to be in the deepest trouble) they might even stay up anyway.
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    Osnabrück is in trouble? Geez, another club on the brink of promotion.

    Jena - okay so they have turned around their finances. Having good finances could lead to a quick return to the 3Liga.
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    Well the problem for Jena will be that they will be relegated in a Regional Liga were Rasenballsport Leipzig plays since it seems Halle will go up this year. RB Leipzig would be a tough team to fight promotion with.
  23. Alex_K

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    As usual half the league or so is in trouble. Good finances are relative there - in the 3. Liga that translates into "we are not in danger of going bankrupt next year, the year after that - who knows?"

    So far Red Bull has quite the history of being pathetic, though. Anyway - no matter who they play against, there is now automatic promotion spot for the league winner anyway. Winning the league only qualifies them for the 6 team promotion play-off, which could be against Kiel, Dortmund II, Bayern II, etc.
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    At Bayern II it needs to be seen how they do under new coach Scholl. Under Jonker they are this season far away from promotion (rank 13 currently).
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    I know where Bayern II are right now - however, if their signings for next season are an indication they are serious about promotion. Plus they will have very little actual competition next season. 1860 II probably don't want to go up anyway, who's left then? Ingolstadt II and Fürth II?

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