Aquellos jugadores de los que se esperaba mas.

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  1. MATADOR179

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    Propongo este topico para los jugadores que NO son noticia. Para que demos comentarios, los que quieran.

    Aquellos que fueron y que siguens en algun lado, perdidos talvez. O aquellas promesas que no se oyen.

    Tengo 3 en mente rapidito.

    Ribas = Ex-River Plate, Ex-Inter de Milan, aun en Montréal?

    Bernardo Espinosa = Joven, llamado à Seleccion Colombia en su momento. No juega en el Sevilla?

    Jaime ''tanque'' Ruiz = Delantero en seleccion juvenil, figura, despues jugo de lateral. Hoy en dia...


  2. crzdcolombian

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    Rivas not Ribas. No one knew who he was before his BS move to River then a ever crazier move to Inter

    Dude Espinosa is 22..... that is insane to write him off

    Tanque Ruiz dude was only a half season wonder and no one really knew about him.
  3. el escorpion

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    Rodallega, Montaño, Tressor Moreno, de esos tres yo esperaba maravillas
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    Si Nelson Rivas. Me hizo confundir Diego. ^^
    De memoria el man prometia cuando jugaba en cali, lo llamaban tyson y en River le fue bien.

    Yo no dije que Bernardo estaba quemado. Dije que no era noticia porque ni juega y que yo esperaba que jugase al menos en el Sevilla se callo despues de la convocatoria cuando cambio de equipo.

    Tanque Ruiz prometia mucho y no salio con casi nada.


    Igual solo eran ejemplos. Recuerdo un volante 10 del pereira que fue a una seleccion, sub 23 creo. Tubo un ano prometedor y luego nada. No doy con su nombre.


  5. MATADOR179

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    Ah pero esos tres hicieron sus carreraras, relativamente buenas. No desaparecieron.
    Rodallega juega en la premier y se gana un buen billete tiene nombre y lo escuchamos a veces.
    Tresor fue importante donde estubo. Acaba de volver a Colombia.
    Y Victor es querido en Francia.

    Cierto que no son maravillas y que prometian mas. Pero bueno.
  6. pepinointer

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    que me dices de johnier........

    rodallega, por donde se vea es fracaso,....prometio ser mejor que messi.....y no es ni mejor que brayan ruiz.....

    espinoza ponerlo por 6 meses malos, es como


    harrison otalvaro.......si no es por este semestre, entraba a esta lista


    pibe10 i prefer this thread in “colombia“
  7. pipevasquez

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    Rodallega, se ha mantenido en Inglaterra, eso dice mucho de el, jamás ha tenido un escandalo, jamás se a hablad cosa mala de el. Como profesional, muy bien
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    pero se esperaba mas.......ni el mas pesimista, se imaginaba que a sus 27 iba cerrar un año con solo 4 goles
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    I like this thread, excellent idea MATADOR179

    I do agree with Pipe, I wouldn't call Rodallega "fracaso". Yes, after the 2005 Sudamericano we all expected much more from him, but the guy is several years now playing in the EPL and usually in the starting lineup. I also expected more from Asprilla & Angel but you cannot call them a fracaso as well. Fracaso for me is Johnnier, Pino (how come you still didn't mention the guy? major fracaso), Castrillon, Otalvaro (pepino, one decent 6 months doesn't erase it. The guy was one of the stars in 2003 sub-17 and also in sub-20 and didn't even play in Europe. and no, sitting on the bench in Ukraine is not Europe).

    Bernardo Espinoza? I wouldn't call him fracaso as well. We didn't know him until his good game in the Spanish cup which opened a door for him in Sevilla's first team. He had few good months, called up for the NT and that's it. No expectations from him.

    Marco Perez? Huge fracaso. Now this is a guy that I was positive in his success after his good seasons in Argentina. Huge fracaso with Zaragoza and now he plays with O'Higgins.
    John Jairo Mosquera? Huge fracaso as well. Came to the 2007 Sudamericano as one of the sub-20 stars with Darwin Quintero, plays so many years in Germany but mostly as sub and mostly in second division.
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    es que lo de Rodallega fue sencillamente epico en la sub 20, yo siempre defendi un punto que estaba entre lineas, Rodallega si fue mejor que Messi, por lo menos en ese sub 20 lo fue, se que fue una gran tonteria propia de inexpertos decir algo asi, pero juemadre, 11 goles y la mayoria de una calidad total, lo hacen a uno creer que podia dar muchisimo mas. y no me referia a victor montaño, hablaba de Johnnier Montaño.
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    Wason Renteria..... big super sub in Brazil then went to Porto Loaned to a small French team rumors of Milan & Bayern and playing at fing Millos. Also great season with Braga they wanted to keep him and he went to Brazil. Either an idiot or has a awful agent

    Pino - maybe will play in Greece dude looked great but only had 5 good games 5 years ago and people still ask for him on the senior team

    Teofilo - yup dusty Teo. Guy has it all to be up there with Falcao in top teams of Europe wrecking hacok but him being an idiot and antics in Turkey & Argentina now have him in Mexico. He is the new Asprilla

    G10 - Giovani Hernandez was so good in 1998. I was very excited about him and 14 years later after sucking it up on the NT people still want him to be on the NT

    Cristian Zapata - 26 no longer promising and yet to start on the NT. Has to be a reason coaches pick fing Valdez, Perea, Aquivaldo and Yepes over him. It's not that they are all World Class.
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    Teo has better goal per game average than falcao.........he is our second top scorer in wcq and is starter
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    What Crzd ment is regarding his career and I agree. Teo is very talented and if he was less idiot, he would make a great career in European club, plays champions league tournaments instead of fight with Racing's 2nd keeper, return to Junior and sign with Cruz Azul...
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    Libis. Arenas.
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    +1
    Damn, after the Sudamericano I was so positive that we have a new diamond in hands and honestly, I do think that the kid is talented, but like many other talented Colombian players, I guess that other things messing with his mind and prevent him from concentrate in his career. Very ashame.
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    Edwin Congo :rolleyes:

    Juan Carlos Toja - Si a tenido una carrera aceptable, pero lo veia en mejores ligas que la MLS o la de Grecia..
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    Toja has only 1 foot, a pot problem and is banned by the NT for leaving Santa fe for free. I really like him but dude was in Europe for a while and making bank in the MLS now.

    Libis Arenas still makes me sad. Same with Landuazzi or w/e the Once Caldas/2003 sub 20 keeper name was. 2 awesome keepers and now MIA. Libis is still young for a goalie but still neither of them even play professionally anymore
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    Si Johnnier es uno de los mejores ejemplos.

    Y pues como ya nombraron a casi todos esos que fueron Campeones en 2005 y luego se cayeron.
    Lo curioso es que Ospina era el tercer arquero, Libis el primero y Falcao estaba opacado por Rodallega.
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    he played wcq agaisnt brazil in the maracana.........stop fake info, to argue
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    Cristian "el alambique" Nazarith, el hijo de Trellez, el Mono Reina, Sherman "el Messi colombiano" Cardenas, Ricardo "el nuevo Zapata" Chara, Pipetardo, Carlos Hidalgo...

    Todos estos me parecieron buenos cuando los vi por primera vez, pero uno no puede dejarse descrestar por 1 partido bueno de un jugador, ese es un error grave mio.
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    eso es lo otro, uno no se puede dejar seducir por mas que los medios lo digan.................de ahi solo me entusiasmo hidalgo en su momento
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    se llamaba johny acosta el 10 de la sub17 al que le cortaron la carrera con una falta horrible? tragico.

    el tigre castillo era un crack antes del accidente nunca luego fue igual.
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    si, era de la sub 20 de 2003, se perdio el mundial......el reemplazo fue macnelly que no resulto siendo malo, la falta se la hizo el cabezon rodriguez, despues fueron compañeros

    al parecer anda en bolivia....

    http://bestiariodelbalon.com/2012/07/21/4946/
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    Wason fue muy importante para la Libertadores del Inter. Le fue muy bien en Francia y e Portuga, lo que lo mato fue su regreso.
    Zapata, su carrera en Europa ha sido muy buena excepto el año en Villareal, si e de extrañar que aún no se haga un puesto en la selección.
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    Zapata because he should be a starter on the NT. He is like 5th choice and none of our CBs are all that great.

    Wason really? He has been bad since he left Braga. Winning a title with Millos this season doesn't change anything. Dude was at Porto and wanted by Bayern. Being in Colombia and potentially going to Mexico is a huge huge failure.

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