Atletico Nacional- part VI

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  1. paisaboii

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    Pibe quintero si jugo y ami tambien me importa este torneo lo que pasa es que no hay delanteros los q hay estan en un bajon y el que se trajo grave. En otro foro mucha gente le tiene una fe ni la hp a fano pero yo no para mi la unica mala contratacion nunca me gusto. Entre todo los delanteros del verde solo han hecho un gol y fue renteria en el ultimo juego por esta misma copa. Antes de los 10 o 15 minutos diego habia tenido 3 opciones claras de gol y se las comio segun por lo que escuche renteria tuvo 2 y tambien no las aprovecho.


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    Yes, I saw that Quintero played and was substittued by Guisao. I know that we don't have strikers and it's so ironic because we score a lot, but only when the whole team function. If we recieve goal first, (Itagui, Tolima, Medellin, Cucuta, godoy was exceptional) when we kinda choke.

    I think everyone lost their faith in Fano, even Sachi understood that it was mistake. But Renteria & alvarez, who I consider as a good strikers at least to bit teams like Sucre & Rionegro, cannot score!!
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    Santi fired yet?
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    :mad: Give me a break, will ya?? And why would he needs to be fired? I wonder if Guardiola fired yet for losing to Getafe and teams like that. :mad:


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    what is it 5 loses with this team? He needs to be fired for being a bad coach.

    Nacional attacks well because they basically have the Colombian league allstar/dream team up front. Hey lets buy the top 3 players willing to play in Colombia !!!!

    People give Santi way way too much credit
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    no creo que sea que we choke es mas que los equipos se encierran y no podemos jugar nuestro futbol aparte de que no nos entra el balon. el unico partido si itagui que no mostramos nada.

    nacional muchas veces a traido los mejores jugadores para nada entonces el sachi si a hecho algo. si lo hechamos a quien traemos???? si 5 derrotas nunca es algo bueno pero una victoria este sabado cambia todo. todavia estamos dentro de los 8 en liga en la copa postobon faltan 7 partidos y solo estamos a 4 del medellin que es puntero. libertadores vamos bn solo falta ganar contra godoy y ya asegurar el pase a la siguiente ronda.
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    I guess you are right Paisaboii, because we did played well al,ost in all of our games and only the keepers were the ones who stopped us. I hope we can win Quindio, otherwise it'll be very unpleasent situation.
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    No changes for today's game vs. Quindio in Armenia. We continue with our 4-3-2-1: PEZZUTI; CALLE, TULA, HENRIQUEZ, DIAZ; BERNAL, MEJIA, CORDOBA; MACNELLY, MOSQUERA; DORLAN.

    Paisaboii, did you hear something about J. Valencia? The game vs. U de Chile was on Feb. 14 and he was out for 6 weeks, which means I think he'll be back for the game vs. Godoy or maybe for the next league game.
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    Por su parte Juan david Valencia adelanta trabajos de fisioterapia para estar mañana nuevamente a disposición del Cuerpo Técnico y posiblemente para después del clásico del domingo 25 de marzo esté disponible para actuar.

    http://www.atlnacional.com.co/ultimas-noticias/valoy-patino-y-valencia-03130
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    What can we say after a game like this? For me the draw is like a lost, even though we were the one to equalise one minute from time. All of our loses look the same. We controlled the game in the first half, 5 minutes when we lost concentration cost us with 2 goals, we missed twice one-on-one (Mosquera & Macnelly) and at the end MOM was, how surprise, the opponent's keeper, Alejandro Otero. :mad:

    Crzd, how can you come and acuse the coach if the team played well, created chances (Mosquera could close this game if he would put the on-on-one when we led 0-1) but Otero did everything and saved his team. It's not like we played bad or something and also the defense wasn't that bad. Yes we had 5 minutes of collaps (Calle was horrible, also Farid in the second goal), but I don't understand how can we play good and take one point out of 12. :confused:

    For me right now it's not about football anymore, it's all mentality issue. We must win Godoy on Thursday to get into our heads that we finally won after 6 games (all cmpetitions) because if we won't we'll just be in much more pressure. And the next game is another clasico, and we really don't wanna lose 2 clasicos in a tournament, so we must wake up and soon. Honestly, I knew that we will have bad games,but I didn't think that we will lose so much and with the first team.
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    I think Nacional will start getting their confidence back at home against Godoy Cruz. With the verde crowd cheering them on to victory things will be on the right track again.
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    Pibe I like you but your giving the same excuses every fing Colombian coach gives. We play'd toque toque we had 98% of possession, we are the better team but we are just unlucky. HOW CAN YOU BE UNLUCKY EVERY FING GAME !!!

    One bright spot is Nacional seems unstoppable in CL. Hope that doesn't end as well.

    Nacional has too many stars. Medina >Murrillo > Tula. He won't bench Tula because how much he cost. At least 3 of the goals against Goduy were Tulas fault. What I don't understand is why he is not changing the defense. How many goals has been scored on it in the past 6 games? Defenses shouldn't be giving up so many goals a game.

    Also what is Nacionals attendance now? They were getting almost 40k at the start of the season.
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    Crzd, no one is giving here excuses. I don't know how many matches of Nacional you saw but you can watch it over again and see who was MOM in every game:

    Itagui- Rufai
    Tolima- Anthony Silva
    Cucuta- Bueñanos
    Medellin- we missed more then Breiner saved but he did a good job
    Quindio- Otero was MOM.

    I didn't say that we are perfect and only suffer from the keepers ability, but there's a diferent between losing with a horrible way of playing and losing with good way of playing, creating chances etc. and we did all this.
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    how long have you been following the Colombian NT !! When's the last time the MOTM wasn't the other teams goalie. I hate this BS excuse
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    I probably follows the NT more years then your age, only that it's not the same thing. In the past 3 qualifiers with the NT we got suck results because we also played suck (don't include me the last CA when all the keepers against us were awsome). But here the team plays football, create chances, scored 24 goals in 11 matches (Liga +CL) and the most weakest part is our defense, but you talk like the team doesn't play. Give me a break, keepers are part of the games and all the keepers against us did a wonderful job, which means that we created chances, which means that we had our chances but lack of concentrate/good keeping prevented us from scoring.
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    We are definitely in a slump right now. We knew this would happen, and the only to cure this is to win. and Beating Godoy at home seems like a good start.

    Player wise. Henriquez and Tula seem to be in horrible form but Henriquez seems a bit worse. I think Murillo needs to step in. Also we have no trust worthy strikers. No matter how you look at it. Positive news is that we have Valencia back in training.:)
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    Sachi no es el técnico adecuado,para explotar 100 % a esos jugadores........Se psaron fichando mucho en mediocampo y dejaron descuidado en delantera....
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    I don't agree Pepino. I think that Sachi is a good coach who can handle this team, the only mistake in my opinion was to bring washed-up Fano. Renteria & Alvarez are decent strikers who can play in every Colombian club and one more good striker could complete us and for some reason the staff went on Fano. Do not forget that both Pabon and MOsquera can play as forwards and scored many of our goals, so it's not like we have a scoring issue. We do have mentality problem like the 90th equalise goal that we received from Godoy, or 2 goals in 4 minutes that Quindio scored on us. I do believe that Sachi needs to combined between the CB because both Medina & Murillo can play in the CL as well as Tula & Henriquez. Calle also in bad form but we do not have a worthy sub for him because Bernal replaced Valoy. Two wins on Godoy & DIM and we will return to ourselves.
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    I dunno men hasta ahora Sachi is failing in my eyes... Vamos a ver si logra enderesar ese barco
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    They can play as strikers and score.....but remember that a striker, is also a reference, a good “9“
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    No doubt that we are missing a good striker. Btw, Fano isn't a "9" also and maybe this is one of his problems, he cannot play all by himself in a 4-2-3-1 formation when Sachi used it at first.

    Elviejo, I think it's too harsh to call Sachi failure at the moment. We achieved 7 out of 9 points in the Libertadores and despite losing too many points in the Liga, we are still very close for the first 8. Obviously that I didn't expect to be with 4 loses in 9 matches, but it's still not a failure.
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    Nacional is the richest team in Colombian football right now right?
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    Yeah
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    Two changes in our lineup for the game vs. Godoy tomorrow. Sachi finally will go to play with 2 strikers at home, something that he should have done a long time ago, when Renteria will play instead of Bernal. o more 3 DM players in home game. Bernal himself will replace Elkin Calle as RB and I think that Calle is patying the price for his horrible night vs. Quindio. Bernal attacks more then Calle and will help us from the right flank. Formation:

    --------------Pezzuti-----------------

    Bernal------Tula------Henriquez---Diaz

    ----------Cordoba-----Mejia----------

    -------Macnelly--------Mosquera-----

    ----------Pabon-------Renteria-------
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    Good luck tonight. Represent Colombia proud.
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