Best story of your week - 2013

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  1. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera BigSoccer Supporter

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  2. elonpuckhog

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    Hoping to have some good stories to share this year.
  3. La Rikardo

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    Local university ran a showcase at the football team's indoor practice facility on Dec 31 and Jan 1. 25-minute halves running a dual system. Haven't done an "outdoor" game in nearly two months. GK punts the ball out high enough that it hits a vertical part of the ceiling structure and bounces back to her. I see no reason to stop play so we continue. An attacker chases it down with the GK and the GK gets there first. Second touch. IFK. The coach wasn't happy, but I feel like I didn't have any choice in the matter. First decision of 2013 for me. Hopefully I don't have to call anything like that again. :)
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  4. RefGil

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    Why would this be a second touch? If you mean "Illegal touch" as in "GK used her hands again after releasing the ball via the punt; IFK", then nevermind.

    Oh, and here in the frozen North, where we have various 11v11 indoor facilities, that's why we often have local rules (for non-USSF matches) that proscribe if the ball hits the ceiling, it is an IFK for the team that did not last touch the ball from a spot directly below the point of contact. Because if the ball hits the girder off a punt, it's likely coming back to the keeper.


  5. MrPerfectNot

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    At our full-size indoor facility, a modification (non-USSF matches) is that balls off the ceiling / girders are still in play AND that the keeper can have a second touch. Everyone gets it, no problems whatsoever. But that's for a facility that is constantly used, so everyone knows the modification - in the case of a one-off like you described, I can see how this might not be addressed.
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  6. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    In the absence of any facility rule, I would have called a drop ball when it hits the ceiling...
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    Can't do this. This is basically the same as hitting a tree branch over the field, which is currently being hashed out in detail in a different thread. Barring local modifications or ROC known by both teams, the ceiling is part of the field.
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  8. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Ok, ground rule double then....:p
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    But again a good reminder: when the field presents the possibility for something weird, talk about it before the game.
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  10. DudsBro

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    No, but I probably would have anyway and no one would have said a word. (Also because I would have forgotten the technicality.....)
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  11. La Rikardo

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    My thought exactly.
  12. campbed

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    Come on now... if you all of a sudden have a match indoors, speak to the site mgr or the people who organized the event about local conditions and how to handle them.

    Should not be thinking about it as it happens, you should know.

    Site rules vary:
    - Ceiling (everywhere I work) is out. GK, CK, IDK depending where and who last touched.
    - Slide tacking yes/no?
    - Goal keeper punts yes/no?
    - Wheels on the side of the goal post that technically could keep the ball in play...
    - Which freakin line is it again for the far touchline?
    - Score on KO yes/no?
    - Spitting on the field (I'm SURE if you ask you know what their answer will be), some places I work the site says it is a send off automatically I don't care what USSF says on the matter, ge 'em off my field, what are they stoopid?

    YMWV.
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  13. Dayton Ref

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    The place I played in Denver had the ceiling in play. I remember taking a pretty deft chest/shoulder trap because I miss hit a kick so it came straight back (never kick it straight, if you kick on an angle it'll come back toward the corner). A striker was coming and all I was thinking was "Can I grab this again? Better not."
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  14. rkucenski

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    Remember the OP said it was a univeristy using their indoor facility. They probably have 4-5 games there an offseason. All the indoor facilities mentioned above with the modified ROC have 4-5 games before lunch. Just a place that doesn't see as much action and nobody thought (hindsight) to ask about the roof.
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  15. MrPerfectNot

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    Exactly.
  16. campbed

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    If there was a 120yd x 100yd UFO hovering 30 ft over my outdoor field, I'd ask if it was in or out...
    (I've done many a showcase...)

    I would then call in William Shatner. <<insert appropriate Star Trek reference here>>
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    Last night, men's open indoor. Apparantly I had the wrong team kickoff for the2nd half. Player on the bench says, "Hey, it's supposed to be our kickoff." I look at him, look at the play which has started, & said "Ok. go take it from them." Both benches had a good laugh, especially since right then, the defender stripped the ball, so all is well.
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    That's happened to me several times in the small sided (6v6) adult games we do. They play three twenty minute periods per game, and once in a while I'll forget to write down who has the first kick-off. Especially in the second game of the day, it all runs together. The players usually don't remember either.
  19. campbed

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    I've done this once indoor when it mattered (youth tourney, my first or second year reffing).

    This why I always give the kick to the team on the Guest/Visitor bench or side. Home always has kick second half. Beats having to think for a living.

    Speaking of men's open, 8pm kick for a three game set tonight. Yippee. (maybe I'll give first kick to Home just to screw with myself.. <<hmm, that didn't sound right>> )
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  20. espola

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    The only real "indoor" place I played had a rule to protect their lights - any ball into the ceiling was a "foul" - free kick for the other team directly below the point of contact.
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    Shatner reffed US-Germany in 2002.

    "Kahn"!! he yelled.....
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    I am doing 6v6 Dome soccer over the winter and did 3 U-19 Boys games yesterday. Went pretty well and one of the coaches was particularly impressed with me and complimented me as I reported the scores to the guy running the dome. He overheard along with the other referee who was working that night who also happens to be one of my assignors for outdoor travel leagues. Right after that the assignor asked me if I wanted to work an indoor State tournament coming up in a few weeks! Good night!
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  25. gosellit

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    Another Disney Showcase in the books. This year I was part of the referee coach/mentor program for the boys, then refereed at the girls. Just an awesome 8 days!!!
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