Can't tell the players without a score card (ROSTER 2012)

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  1. firstshirt

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    Mods, Can we keep this a non discussion thread, Sticky and only update as changes are made?
    From the Revs site (I added the new guys)
    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston
    Barnes
    Soares
    Lazano*

    Midfielders:
    Simms
    Nyassi*
    Joseph
    Mansally
    Guy
    Feilhaber
    Cardenas*
    Tierney
    McCarthy
    Boggs

    Forwards:
    Schilwaski
    Kinne
    Fagundez*

    * Internationals

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua
    Borman
    Zerka
    Lekic

    19 players signed (two waiting on paperwork). Baring trades, in less than 10 days the Revs will 6 more players via the Super and Supplimental drafts. Interesting note, only 3 players on the team are over 29 years old and 13 are 25 or less.


  2. Revs in 2010

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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    FWIW, FDA described Cardenas as a striker in El Globo today.
  3. patfan1

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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Revs added MF Kelyn Rowe and D Tyler Polak in the draft today both GA.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    I hadn't even considered that they were both GA. Nice.

    So is it fair to assume that we still have buckets of cap room to work with?

    Edit: Mods, please move my post to whatever thread makes sense to you.


  5. Kraft Out

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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Who are all the GA's on this roster? Could that be broken down as well?
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Good idea. At this point it's just Rowe and Polak. Fagundez's contract gets cap relief, but I don't think it's GA per se. I think Alston was our last GA player prior to this year, but he graduated after his rookie season.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    How come he was with the GA's on that European tour? Was it just to fill out the roster?

    btw, I'm not trying to turn this into a discussion. I'm genuinely interested. I can't seem to follow all of MLS roster rules.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    This is my understanding. I'm a nerd about any number of things, but MLS contract minutiae is not one of them.

    Part of GA is a designation ("GA Class of 2009") that a player probably keeps as long as he is in the league. The other part is the cap relief afforded teams that draft GA players.

    The GA rules will "graduate" a player (for purposes of cap relief) based on the age, number of appearances or minutes a player has in a given season. Alston started most of 2009, and as a result was graduated after one year. Prior to that, Rob Valentino (!) and Ameche Igwe saw less minutes and the Revs got cap relief for for a second season (good thing, given their modest contributions). I think Valentino aged out of the cap relief state, less sure about Igwe - his contract may have just run out.
  9. firstshirt

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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi* - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA

    Forwards:
    Schilwaski - F/M
    Kinne - M/F
    Fagundez - F/M - HG*

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua - F
    Borman - LB
    Zerka - M
    Lekic - F
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Can Mods lock the thread and update the original post as Roster changes happen?
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Correcting Fagundez's status as per this:
    From the Revolution website:
    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi* - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA

    Forwards:
    Schilwaski - F/M
    Kinne - M/F
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua - F
    Borman - LB
    Zerka - M
    Lekic - F
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Official Pre-Season roster.


    # Player Pos. Last Team
    1 Matt Reis GK Los Angeles (MLS)
    3 Tyler Polak DEF Creighton
    4 John Lozano DEF America de Cali
    5 A.J. Soares DEF California
    7 Kenny Mansally MID Real de Banjul (GAM)
    8 Chris Tierney MID Virginia
    13 Ryan Guy MID St. Patrick’s Athletic (IRL)
    14 Diego Fagundez MID Revolution Under-16s
    15 Zack Schilawski FWD Wake Forest
    17 Sainey Nyassi MID Ports Authority FC (GAM)
    19 Clyde Simms MID D.C. United (MLS)
    21 Shalrie Joseph MID N.Y. Freedoms (USL)
    22 Benny Feilhaber MID AGF Aarhus (DEN)
    25 Darrius Barnes DEF Duke
    26 Stephen McCarthy MID North Carolina
    30 Kevin Alston DEF Indiana
    33 Zak Boggs FWD South Florida
    34 Bobby Shuttleworth GK Austin Aztex (USL)
    35 Ryan Kinne MIN Monmouth
    40 Tim Murray GK Providence
    80 Fernando Cardenas FWD America de Cali
    Kelyn Rowe MID UCLA
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Updating after Supplemental Draft.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Garcia

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi* - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Smith - M/F
    Purdie - CM/CDM

    Forwards:
    Schilwaski - F/M
    Kinne - M/F
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Roach - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua - F
    Borman - LB
    Zerka - M
    Lekic - F

    As of now, I'm not sure if Smith is an international or not.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Updating with new signing (Moreno) and Nyassi getting his green card.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Garcia

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Smith - M/F
    Purdie - CM/CDM

    Forwards:
    Schilwaski - F/M
    Kinne - M/F
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Roach - F
    Moreno* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua - F
    Borman - LB

    As of now, I'm not sure if Smith is an international or not.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    I'm leaving Moreno on here for now, since there's been nothing unofficial from the Revs. Adding Saër Sène, removing Borman.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Garcia

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Smith - M/F
    Purdie - CM/CDM

    Forwards:
    Schilwaski - F/M
    Kinne - M/F
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Roach - F
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua - F


    As of now, I'm not sure if Smith is an international or not.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Kinne and Schilawski released...
    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Garcia

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Smith - M/F
    Purdie - CM/CDM

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Roach - F
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    Status Unknown:
    Jaqua - F


    As of now, I'm not sure if Smith is an international or not.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    3 players added.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Garcia

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Smith - M/F
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown

    As of now, I'm not sure if Smith is an international or not.
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Also adding Nguyen.

    Also, removing Smith and Garcie since we've heard nothing about them.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M
    White - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Re: Can't tell the players without a score card(ROSTER 2012)

    Forgot to add Lechner and Runstrom. Even if the Revs don't have him on their roster.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Mansally - M/F
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M
    White - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F
    Runstrom - F *

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Removing Mansally
    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Lazano - CB *
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M
    White - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F
    Runstrom - F *

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Removing today's cuts

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Adding our new DP.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F
    Bengtson* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Adding our new striker.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Joseph - DM
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Moreno* - F
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F
    Bengtson* - F
    Imbongo* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Removing Joseph, adding Gavin and removing Moreno.
    https://twitter.com/NERevolution/status/232514145650610177

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Gavin - M
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Boggs - M
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F
    Bengtson* - F
    Imbongo* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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    Roster continues to get smaller, as Boggs retires.

    GK:
    Reis
    Shuttlworth
    Murray

    Defenders:
    Alston - RB
    Barnes - CB/LB
    Soares - CB
    Polak - LB - GA
    Lechner -- RB *

    Midfielders:
    Simms - DM
    Nyassi - M
    Gavin - M
    Guy - M
    Feilhaber - M/AM
    Cardenas* - M/F
    Tierney - M/D
    McCarthy - DM
    Rowe - M/AM - GA
    Purdie - CM/CDM
    Roach - M
    Nguyen - M

    Forwards:
    Fagundez - F/M - HG* GA
    Sène* - F
    Blake Brettschneider - F
    Bengtson* - F
    Imbongo* - F

    * = Internationals
    GA = Generation Adidas
    HG = Home Grown
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