Club de Futbol America: desde sus inicios hacia la vanguardia.

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  1. Deleted USer

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    this thread was recommended by the Bop. He wanted a thread to discuss our club's past. I thought it was a great idea.

    This thread is strictly for its fans. Consider this your first warning. No TROLLING of any kind will be tolerated.

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    In this particular thread, the following things will be discussed

    • legendary players, coaches, and executives
    • memorable matches
    • unforgetable statements by players, coaches, and executives
    • historical anecdotes
    • the clubs trajectory from its beginnings to its present day
    • club records


  2. Deleted USer

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    one thing that I have always admired America is that they have always been are the forefront in Mexican football history.

    While other clubs glorify false traditions and claim other achievments due to lack of poor results on the field, there are clubs that actually walk the walk and talk the talk. America is not only one othem, they are the leaders of the pack.

    America was the first Mexican team ever to play a match against an international opponent. They were also the first Mexican team to play a match outside of Mexico's borders.

    Their first match away from Mexico was set up by the Mexican embassy in Guatemala. They were scheduled to play 3 matches. For their Guatemalan trip, the following members of the team made the trip.

    Coach: Adolfo Frias Beltran
    Goalkeeper: Ignacio de la Garza
    Defenders: Rafael Garza Gutierrez ' Record', Pedro Legarreta, & Agustin Ojeda
    Midfielders: Enrique Esquivel, Juan Andrade, & Pablo Sarre
    Forwards: Carlos Garces, Adeodato Lopez, Jose Diaz Izquierdo, Horacio Ortiz, & Humberto Garza Ramos

    1st international match

    Guatemalan National Team 2 - 3 Club America
    Tuesday, January 1, 1923
    Stadium Marte de Guatemala

    Guartemala Roster

    A. Murga
    Granal
    Kinhie (G 72)
    Figueredo
    Aguirre
    Barrios
    Boza
    Nicol
    Minondo (G 65)
    Alvarez
    Padilla
    DT Eduardo Palma

    Club America Roster

    de la Garza
    Garza Gutierrez
    Legarreta
    Esquivel
    Andrade
    Sarre
    Garces
    Lopez ( G 70)
    Diaz Izqierdo (G 26)
    Ortiz (G 40)
    Garza Ramos
    DT Adoldo Frias Beltran

    Referee: Jose James (Guatemala)
    Attendance: 10,000

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    Guatemala 3 - 1 Club America
    Friday, January 4, 1923
    Stadium Marte de Guatemala
    Attendence: 10,000

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    Guatemala 1 - 4 Club America
    Monday, January 7, 1923
    Stadium Marte de Guatemala
    Attendence: 6,000

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    Take this into consideration.....

    America was the first team to play abroad. When i say "team", I am referring to both club and national teams. The Mexican NT played their first match against a foreign team FIVE years after the fact in 1927.

    Colo Colo was the first foreign team to play in Mexico. They played a series of matches in Mexico in 1927.

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    Club America was also the first Mexican club to play a match in Argentina. They went on a 15 match tour during the 1954 summer months in South America (and Panama). They played matches in Argentina, Paraguay, Colombia, Ecuador, & Panama. Their overall record during that Tour stands at 7 Wins 1 Draw 7 Losses.

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    It is also interesting to note that the club that pushed to participate in the 1928 Olympics and 1930 World Cup was none other than America. America's executives pushed to give Mexican football a more international appeal. That is why 8 of the 17 players on the 1928 Amsterdam Roster came from America.
  3. Don Boppero 3000

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    Luis Roboerto Alves Dos Santos Gavranic - Zague

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    From esmas.com

    ‘Zaguinho’ es hijo de padres brasileños pero mexicano por nacimiento. Vivió su infancia en Brasil y ahí comenzó su carrera de futbolista, le apodaban ‘el mexicano’ por sus orígenes y rápidamente llegó al futbol de nuestro país.

    América lo descubrió en una gira por Brasil, al saber que era hijo de José Alves ‘Zague’, ex jugador de la institución, y de inmediato lo reclutó. Debutó en el Torneo México 86, en el que hizo el primero de muchos goles.

    Con el paso del tiempo, se convirtió en el máximo goleador del América en su historia, hizo 162 tantos en 400 partidos con las Águilas en dos etapas: del México 86 hasta la campaña 1995-96 y regresó en los torneos Invierno 97 y Verano 98.

    Antes y después de esas etapas estuvo con el Atlante, pero salió del equipo al final del Invierno 99, no jugó en el Verano 2000 y parecía que ya era el retiro, pero Raúl Arias lo llevó al Necaxa, donde se mantuvo hasta el Clausura 2003 para incrementar su cuota goleadora a 209 (184 en liga, 21 en liguilla y 4 en repesca).

    Su partido de despedida se realizó el 1 de octubre de 2003 en el Estadio Azteca, portó por última vez el número 17 con las Águilas del América enfrentando al Barcelona de España.
  4. Lyrical S.

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    Carlos Enzo Reinoso Valdenegro

    Even though I wasn't alive during his years as a player, his story is one of the many that give me those "chills" that run down my spine! Here we have the story of how he came to glorify his name in our history!
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    Pasaron los años y el futbol de Reinoso cada vez era mejor. Jugó el Mundial de Alemania 74 con Chile después de haber salido Campeón de Copa en la edición 73-74 y regresó para volver a coronarse como Campeón de liga en la 75-76 ya con Raúl Cárdenas como entrenador. Además ganó el torneo de Concacaf en 78 y la Copa Interamericana en ese mismo año con la anotación de un golazo.

    Durante la temporada 78-79, y con una mala campaña de los Cremas, “Pirulete” fue relegado a la banca varias veces y mostró su descontento por ello. La mala temporada americanista dio como resultado la renuncia de Raúl Cárdenas y en la prensa se manejó la falsa información de que había sido Reinoso quien sugirió a sus directivo que el entrenador saliera. Nada más falso que eso, y por lo mismo, para que su imagen quedara tan limpia como siempre, Carlos se retiro, así, de la noche a la mañana después de perder contra los Pumas el 29 de Marzo de 1979 en el Azteca, durante la jornada 27 de la liga. Esa vez, Cárdenas mandó su última alineación con: Zelada; Trejo, Rergis, (Sánchez Galindo), Bravo, Martínez; García, Victorino (Ortega), Dirceu; Reinoso, Manzo, y Gamboa. ¡Quién iba a decir, que también sería el último juego del mejor jugador en la historia del América!

    Pudo más su amor al club que el interés propio, y su amor al club e imagen tenían que permanecer limpios y puros, sin nubarrones que los empañaran. Fue así, tan sorpresivo, lamentable y desolador, como el mejor jugador de la historia del AMÉRICA, el mejor extranjero en la historia del futbol mexicano, se iba de las canchas, dejando un legado al que nunca, nadie siquiera, se ha acercado. El destino le tenía deparadas más emociones al Reinoso americanista, en un futuro como entrenador.

    Su último gol lo marcó el 20 de Enero de 1979, durante la fecha 20, jugando contra el Tampico, en el Estadio Tamaulipas, que paradójicamente era dirigido por su gran “maestro”, José Antonio Roca. La Jaiba Brava ganó 3-2 a los Cremas. El otro tanto americanista lo hizo Agustín Manzo.

    Su gol más importante lo marcó el 14 de Abril de 1978 al Boca Juniors, en la Final de la Copa Interamericana 78, gol que significó el triunfo y el título. América ganó 2-1, el primero gol lo había anotado “El Güero”, José de Jesús Aceves.



    source: http://www.realidadamericanista.com/generales/galeria/reinoso.asp


  5. Aguilas Del America

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    Re: Carlos Enzo Reinoso Valdenegro

    Good thread.

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  6. Perndog2006

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    I used to like oman biyick as a kid when I watched some america games
  7. azulcremaporvida

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    Dunno how accurate this is, since it's off Wikipedia, but here are our club records:

    • First Mexican team to get to the second round of the Copa Libertadores de America in 1998.
    • First Mexican team to get a point in the Copa Libertadores de America outside México against Vasco da Gama, the result was 1-1.
    • Has participated in most international competitions out of all Mexican teams, with 20, including Copa Sudamericana 2007. This is the participation of America in the 20 competitions that it has participated in, of which they have gained 8, with an effectiveness of approximately 40% .
    • These are the number of times participated in international competitions:
    • 8 Cups of Champions and Runners-up of CONCACAF (1977, 1985, 1987, 1990, 1992, 2002, 2003, 2006)
    • 1 Giant's Cup of CONCACAF (2001)
    • 2 Inter-American Cups (1978 and 1991)
    • 5 Copa Libertadores (1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2007)
    • 2 Copa Sudamericana (2005, 2007)
    • 1 North American Superliga (2007)
    • 1 Fifa Club World Cup (2006)
    • Along with the Guadalajara, is the only club to have played all the matches in the first Mexican division.
    • Historical Record of most games without losing in Mexican Football, 28. (Closing 2005 - Opening 2005). The former record was 24 games without losing in 1971-1972.
    • Mexican team with most points in one short season, 43 (Apertura 2002).
    • First Mexican team complete 1000 victories in the Opening of the 2002 playing against Pumas of the UNAM Giving an olympic round in stage CU.
    • First Mexican team to score 4000 goals; in the Opening from the 2004 playing against Veracruz, goal 4000 was scored by Christian Patiño.
    • Has participated in a total of 35 liguillas in Mexican soccer (the total number of liguillas to date is 47), being the club that have participated most and the team to have won the most, winning 9.Have winning most of their championships in short tournaments.
    • First team of CONCACAF to win the Inter-American Cup in 1978.
    • Winner of most international matches in Mexico and CONCACAF.
    • First and only Mexican club to have played in 3 different continents (Asia, America and Europe).
    • Only team of CONCACAF that has won the Inter-American Cup 2 times, in 1978 and 1991.
    • Winner of the most Champions Cup of CONCACAF, along with Cruz Azul Club, both with 5 titles each.
    • Only team of CONCACAF that has won arguably the most important international competitions in the region:
    • Champions Cup of the CONCACAF
    • Inter-American Cup

    • Has participated in more Copa Libertadores ( 5 ) than any other Mexican team.
    • First non-European and South American team in being World-wide Club of the month to win the award 2 times: August 2001 and May of 2002.
    • Currently (October 2007) has the place 19th in the World-wide Ranking of Clubs of the IFFHS. (http://www.iffhs.de/)
    • In the All-Time Club World Ranking (since 1.1.1991) of the IFFHS, has the place 94th.
  8. azulcremaporvida

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    We have always had excellent goalkeepers. To name a few:

    Adrian Chavez
    Miguel Zelada
    Adolfo Rios
    MEMO Ochoa
    Francisco Castrejon
    Manuel Camacho
  9. erick

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    memo ochoa and temo the best players of america in the last 10 years

    we have handle chivas good lately and next to winnig a championship is beating chivas

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    silva mato a chivas hahahahahahaha
  10. fdp

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    Evolution of Club America

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    I saw this today, had a good laugh, and thought I would share it with you all. ;)

    Carry on...
  11. PSARRE

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    do you have pictures of that team of 1923, the one that played friendly game to guatemala, i have been looking for long time in books , and on the net , but did`t found any pics, my grand dad , played there ..
  12. odiamemas1

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    Hola Sarre, encontré que tu abuelo es Pablo Sarre y jugó en la temporada 1922-1923, en mi sitio web tengo una imagen, espero que te sirva... Entra a odiamemas.com, da click en Archivo, despues en Planteles, y baja al de 1922-1923. Desafortunadamente hay 22 jugadores en el plantel y la foto sólo tiene a 12, espero que te sea de utilidad!
    Si te sirve, házmelo saber, la verdad sólo me registré para ayudarte, me daría mucho gusto que te sirva, incluso te podría pasar la imagen original sin marca de agua. Avísame, mi correo es [email protected]
    Fuerte abrazo!
  13. Deleted USer

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    From the book, El Libro de Oro del Futbol Mexicano by J. Cid Y mulet, on page 285, there is a picture of America. The photo has a hand written note that reads Equipo 'Mexico'. I am not sure if that picture was taken in Guatemala or when the Guatemalans played in Mexico.

    There are 12 people in the photograph, and according to the book, your grandfather, P. Sarre is not one of them.

    However, Triunfos y Tristezas del equipo Tricolor, written by R. Garcia Pimental does state your grandfather as a member of the team
  14. azulcremaporvida

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    So far this is the best wrap-up of the 2002 championship match I've seen on YouTube.

    [youtube]VC5-sekISqc[/youtube]
  15. Solid444

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    To this day, I still consider Adolfo Rios' performance in the second game of the final as one of the best displays of goalkeeping that I have ever seen.
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    Good video. I've said this before, Rios is the best Mexican keeper we've had. It is a shame he got screwed out of the NT.
  17. Harley Quinn

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    This is one of my favorite games ever. If I'm not mistaken it was Memo's first final appearance:)
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3WtHHJlDeQ"]YouTube - América Campeón 05, Juego de Vuelta Pt. 1/3[/ame]
  18. azulcremaporvida

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    Excelente sitio carnal!
  19. azulcremaporvida

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sy1Yz2tEA8"]YouTube - America Campeon 1924-25 y 1925-26[/ame]
    Asturias vs. America en la final.
  20. erick

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_roAJlPZD8"]YouTube - Los mejores goles de America a las Chivas!!![/ame]
  21. azulcremaporvida

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  22. erick

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    is that ortega or hugo sanchez? :eek:
  23. azulcremaporvida

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKgGzqFH10Q"]YouTube - Carlos Reinoso (Pepelotas)[/ame]
    Anyone know who sings this?
  24. azulcremaporvida

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