Clube de Regatas do Flamengo, Parte V [R]

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  1. Imperador3

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    Luckily enough, I wasn't a fool to buy his jersey.

    Did I want him to come here? Yes, because I figured most of his salary would be paid by sponsors (Traffic) and that he going to be a difference maker in Brazil, despite his off the field antics. I already had a good idea on what to expect from him off the field because he had been doing the same thing at the end of his run at Barcelona and at Milan. Adriano has his issues, but he ALWAYS made an impact on the pitch. But since his salary issues started popping up in the media along with the sponsor falling through and add his sub par performance, it was quite obvious that I wanted him off the team ASAP.
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    That video made me laugh. I remember going to the Loja Fla by the Copacabana Palace hotel and the guy was trying to tell me to buy the 10 jersey with Dinho's name on it. I knew better to buy it.
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    That's only because Adriano's position takes less running. He can play (half-ass) as a big target man and still put up decent numbers. As long as the team can create chances for him. He is as much of a fuk up as Ronaldinho if not more. At least Ronaldinho had an amazing period for 4-5 years. Adriano barely reached a high level and threw it all away.


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    Plenty of Adriano's goals in 2009 involved dribbles and movement with the ball and off the ball. Your statement makes it sound like all he did was camp up top and tap in goals or head them.
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    I count 4. But yeah he looked decent enough. Had some nice headers. But that was 3 years ago. He is now 30 and has been mostly injured for the last 2 years not to mention admittedly not taking care of himself during his recovery. I don't think you will see the Adriano of 2009. But it might be enough if Flamengo can use him correctly.
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    Got a PK off a run vs SPFC
    Coritiba
    Sport
    Botafogo
    Fluminense
    Inter

    are the memorable ones off the top of my head. He has been taking his recovery seriously since there's a strong possibility of returning. He even came 10 minutes early to today's session.:D
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    Damn, even though they still played like complete horseshit, we finally reversed the hex and had something go our way in the end. I might be a big homer, but if they bring in a couple solid players like they claim(a new 10, Caceres, and maybe another defensive guy), I think they can be good enough to secure a Libs spot again.
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    Judgement Day. If they don't win Papai Joel is more than likely out. I honestly dont know what I want as an outcome of this game.
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    What are peoples thoughts on getting rid of Joel?

    I hate to keep changing coaches, but I'd like to see it happen again. I still can't help but think that letting Luxemburgo go was a big mistake. It doesn't seem like there are a lot of quality coaches out there, and he led an extremely weak (defensively at least), to a Lib berth. And unfortunately he got his payback to Patricia yesterday.
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    Yea from an outsiders point of view I don't really think there's much he can do. Flamengo need a cb and another creative midfielder, instead Joel gets Hernane? I think the defense is actually worse since the libertadores. They actually made Marcelo Moreno look good yesterday. I have sympathy for Joel because his big moves yesterday were bringing bottinelli on and then Negueba , i just think hes in no mans land with this squad. Why didn't Diego Mauricio play?
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    I may be in the minority, but I've admired Renato Gaucho's work. I wouldn't mind him as a replacement to Joel.

    As far as signings go, things look fairly bleak. Adailton, ex-Santos and currently play for Sion in Switzerland is rumored. I remember him being a disaster for Santos. Maybe one of the santistas could confirm if my memory is correct.

    For a #10, I'm not really optimistic about them bring someone. I think we need to give a chance to one of the youngsters -- Adryan, Thomas, Mattheus. Bottinelli should also be considered, even though he never takes advantage of the opportunities he gets when he starts...

    Ramon from Corinthians will be joining after the Libertadores. I wish we had kept Egidio, who has been very solid for Goias this year. He struggled initially last year for us and then he started to string together good games (particularly vs. Bahia away) and then Luxemburgo signed Junior Cesar and loaned him out. He can be irritating at times, but given the state of left backs around the world, I don't think he is as bad as some say he is. He isn't any worse than Magal.

    Wellington Silva is no different than Everton Silva -- a limited player. I love Ibson, but it really hurt to give up Galhardo, who many fans were rough on, but had potential IMO. With Leo Moura getting older and getting injured more often, we need someone that is servicable and reliable.
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    Dunga is being rumored....
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    Quem me dera.

    Do you know the latest on Caceres? I hate how with every single proven player we are involved with, it's always a long drawn process with drama and controversies.
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    He's still under contract with Libertad till the end of the month. Fla is going to wait so they don't have to pay anything to Libertad.
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    So Patricia & Co. are getting desperate to score some points with the fans. Adryan is going to start on sunday. I really don't know how I feel about this. I'm afraid he's not ready and this will fvck with his confidence. It's going be a true baptism by fire regardless.
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    Check that, he's probably not starting but will play.
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    Joel and his 4 defensive midfielders. Renato will NEVER leave the lineup. He doesn't do anything well besides hitting free kicks. He doesn't mark, he makes no vertical passes, absolutely useless.

    Our ideal midfield should be: Airton, Luiz Antonio, Ibson, Botinelli (Adyran, Thomas).
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    I was watching some random youtube videos and came across a clip of an U-15 kid for Flamengo, Caio Rangel (sp?). The U-15 part starts around the 18th minute. They start talking about Caio around 18:45. Anyway this kid seems talented as hell. Not only is he quick and shifty with the ball, but more importantly he seems unbelievably quick with his body also. I dont follow the younger national teams, so has anybody heard of this kid before? Any info on him in regards to expectations in the future?

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    yea.. he's actually very well known. He was one of the best players for the Brazilian U-15 team that played at the Sud-Americna U-15 tournament. Only player better than him was Vasco's Mosquito
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    Also it's looking really good on the coaching front. Jorge Sampaoli(La U from Chile, who laid the beat down on FLA in the Copa Sul, and made it to the semis in the Libs) and his agent have been making comments that he is interested and its seems like a good situation for him. I believe he has a game this monday and after that he will be completely available. I've also got the impression that Dunga would be interested also. I'd be estatic if either of those 2 took over.
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    Thanks. He looked like he had crazy skill on that video clip, but you never know about the competition when they are that young. Its good to hear he plays and performed well for the national team.
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    Holy Shit. Adryan! O Moleque Marca!
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    The midfield now is crowded pra caralho. Just resigned Airton on loan and Caceres is arriving tomorow. From comments on Flamengo's facebook page and the comments from Globo, NOBODY is happy with resigning Airton at all. I think I have to agree, as we are pretty set in the midfield if caceres is as advertised. The $(undisclosed fee :rolleyes:) could have been put to better use. Benfica wanted 5 million euros for him to be bought outright. Am I missing something? Is this guy anywhere near that good?

    And Adryan and Renatos recent good game makes this a tough situation. So now we have 4 spots for:
    Ibson
    Caceres
    Adryan
    Thomas
    Bottinelli
    Renato
    Luiz Antonio
    Maralha
    Not to mention Muralha Negueba and Mattheus
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