Okay guys, do eigther of our teams have a shot at getting past the group stage? Both start out away, Bolivar goes to face Quinteros and Emelec, Strongest goes to Atletico Paranaense, who is coached by Portugal and by the way they just signed Adriano. Tough starts for both, and it doesn't get easyer, both teams are in strong groups where they are the underdogs. All that being said I think Strongest has more of a chance, the're playing well for a long time now, and they didn't do too bad last Libertadores. add to that the fact that for some reason it seems to me Paranaense is ripe for the picking, they nearly got beat by the Peruvian team to get in. Bolivar in the other hand is going up against a Manger that knows them well, plus Emelec hasn't lost at home in ages. A few of the players that Quinteros doesn't know well are the ones that could cause problems, the Spaniards, and Pedriel. I hope Pedriel does more of what he did against Strongest on the last goal, he looked like a man amongst boys. Good luck to both teams, I'll be watching and probably getting some killer heartburn.