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Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by PDG1978, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. PDG1978

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    ASF mentioned in the Sheep Draft thread an idea about listing the best players (and picking a team I think) who were not included in the IFFHS list of Players of the Century, Pele's Fifa 100 or either of the World Soccer top 100's (writers list or readers voted list). I think he was going to include other lists too but anyway excluding very recent players, there are probably just a few candidates with votes so far (and some more with mentions) in this thread that didn't appear on any of those lists. Luis Suarez has the most points. He received some votes in the regional European Player of the Century elections for IFFHS but not enough to be a candidate for World Player of the Century. He also appeared in the World Soccer writers second list of players but not their top 100, and he was only a point short of being inside the readers top 100 (level with Bebeto for 100th place) as you can see from this link http://englandfootballonline.com/TeamHons/HonsWldSocPlyrsCent.html.
    I'll highlight the other players in my next update. Luis Figo would've been one of them and been around the same point as Luis Suarez in this thread's current standings, but he appeared in Pele's Fifa 100. Although his peak could be argued to have been just in the last century I guess it's unlikely a player starring just as the Player of the Century votes are cast will be considered very much, especially by IFFHS voters. He did receive 7 points voted by World Soccer readers, compared to Suarez's 29.
     


  2. braine

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    At this link http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/bestbest.html you'll have 12 toplists from different sources .
    Eventough some lists are outdated and the list of Pele stupid (only the living players are counted :confused:) its still interesting to review...
     
  3. PDG1978

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    I'm going to follow Peru's lead and re-do my top 100. There aren't many changes to the order of the original players voted for, just a few slight ones including erring on the side of rating Garrincha and Puskas slightly higher although still low compared to the average vote. I've included some more players in my top 50 this time and also 3 more in my top 100 (Didi and a couple of goalkeepers) coming in for 3 more of the original list. I've ordered my choices for 51 to 100 too this time but I see it as being very close especially towards the bottom of the list:
    1) Pele (Brazil) 50 points
    2) Johan Cruyff (Holland) 49
    3) Diego Maradona (Argentina) 48
    4) Michel Platini (France) 47
    5) George Best (N. Ireland) 46
    6) Marco van Basten (Holland) 45
    7) Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/Colombia/Spain) 44
    8) Zinedine Zidane (France) 43
    9) Franz Beckenbauer (Germany) 42
    10) Eusebio (Portugal) 41
    11) Bobby Charlton (England) 40
    12) Michael Laudrup (Denmark) 39
    13) Ronaldo (Brazil) 38
    14) Ferenc Puskas (Hungary/Spain) 37
    15) Ronaldinho (Brazil) 36
    16) Zico (Brazil) 35
    17) Kenny Dalglish (Scotland) 34
    18) Luis Figo (Portugal) 33
    19) Bobby Moore (England) 32
    20) Dejan Savicevic (Yugoslavia) 31
    21) George Weah (Liberia) 30
    22) Dennis Bergkamp (Holland) 29
    23) Roberto Baggio (Italy) 28
    24) Thierry Henry (France) 27
    25) Lothar Matthaus (Germany) 26
    26) Lev Yashin (Soviet Union) 25
    27) Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (Germany) 24
    28) Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine) 23
    29) Stanley Matthews (England) 22
    30) Gerd Muller (Germany) 21
    31) Franco Baresi (Italy) 20
    32) Jurgen Kllinsmann (Germany) 19
    33) Tom Finney (England) 18
    34) Peter Schmeichel (Denmark) 17
    35) Garrincha (Brazil) 16
    36) Ruud Gullit (Holland) 15
    37) Paolo Maldini (Italy) 14
    38) Gheorghe Hagi (Romania) 13
    39) Kaka (Brazil) 12
    40) Johan Neeskens (Holland) 11
    41) Francesco Totti (Italy) 10
    42) Eric Cantona (France) 9
    43) Cafu (Brazil) 8
    44) Matthias Sammer (Germany) 7
    45) Raul (Spain) 6
    46) Dragan Dzajic (Yugoslavia) 5
    47) Robert Pires (France) 4
    48) Jairzinho (Brazil) 3
    49) Patrick Vieira (France) 2
    50) Brian Laudrup (Denmark) 1
    51) Fernando Redondo (Argentina)
    52) Socrates (Brazil)
    53) Gordon Banks (England)
    54) Duncan Edwards (England)
    55) Frank Rijkaard (Holland)
    56) Romario (Brazil)
    57) Gary Lineker (England)
    58) David Beckham (England)
    59) Carlos Alberto (Brazil)
    60) Rivaldo (Brazil)
    61) Claudio Caniggia (Argentina)
    62) Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina)
    63) Paul Gascoigne (England)
    64) Glenn Hoddle (England)
    65) Henrik Larsson (Sweden)
    66) Ryan Giggs (Wales)
    67) Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic)
    68) Gaetano Scirea (Italy)
    69) Roberto Rivelino (Brazil)
    70) Nandor Hidegkuti (Hungary)
    71) Tostao (Brazil)
    72) Raymond Kopa (France)
    73) Gianni Rivera (Italy)
    74) Just Fontaine (France)
    75) Lionel Messi (Argentina)
    76) Enzo Scifo (Belgium)
    77) Giussepe Meazza (Italy)
    78) Ladislao Kubala (Czechoslovakia/Hungary/Spain)
    79) Jimmy Greaves (England)
    80) Denis Law (Scotland)
    81) Rob Rensenbrink (Holland)
    82) Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal)
    83) Mario Kempes (Argentina)
    84) Jan Ceulemans (Belgium)
    85) Preben Elkjaer (Denmark)
    86) John Barnes (England)
    87) Roger Milla (Cameroon)
    88) Didi (Brazil)
    89) Robinho (Brazil)
    90) Gianfranco Zola (Italy)
    91) Davor Suker (Croatia)
    92) John Robertson (Scotland)
    93) Peter Shilton (England)
    94) Gianluigi Buffon (Italy)
    95) Paolo Rossi (Italy)
    96) Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria)
    97) Pierre Littbarski (Germany)
    98) Kazimierz Deyna (Poland)
    99) John Charles (Wales)
    100) Jean Tigana (France)
     
  4. PDG1978

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    Yeah I've seen that page before and also this similar one http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/best-x-players-of-y.html
    I think it was wrong that Pele had to pick 50 current players, and also there seems to have been political motivation to an extent too. Also he was picking from 2 shortlists too I believe so maybe some players he'd include weren't available - I don't know.
     


  5. Perú FC

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    Thanks mate ;).

    About your last list, I think 3 players are too high:

    20. Dejan Savicevic: He's over players as Roberto Baggio, Thierry Henry, Lothar Matthäus, Lev Yashin, Stanley Matthews, Gerd Müller, Franco Baresi or Garrincha.

    50. Brian Laudrup: He's over players as Frank Rijkaard, Carlos Alberto, Rivaldo, Roberto Rivelino, Pavel Nedved or Raymond Kopa.

    89. Robinho: He's over players as Gianluigi Buffon, Hristo Stoichkov, Kazimierz Deyna or Peter Shilton.

    None of them could make my Top 100, probably Savicevic could be near but not more than Masopust or Hagi.
     
  6. PDG1978

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    I understand your views Peru and they are probably the majority view too. However although taking into account general opinion with my new vote I didn't want to over-rule my own opinions too much. It is very close, certainly between positions 11-100 IMO. I've tended to place players more based on peak form rather than consistency which probably benefits those 3, plus my preference for flair/creativity perhaps. Brian Laudrup's best form was in Scotland where to be honest he was far too good for the league really, but he did star for Denmark too and placed very high in the Balon D'or rankings. I think some AC Milan fans may put Savicevic as high as I did, although I'd expect some others to rate Rivera higher. Robinho is struggling at the moment but has already shown special talent. Compared to Stoichkov for example he isn't as good at scoring goals but is more creative. Masopust is certainly another player who I don't think would be far away from my top 100.
     
  7. PDG1978

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    The honourable mentions list is now:
    Domingos Da Guia
    Lilian Thuram
    Gianluigi Buffon
    Pavel Nedved
    Marcel Desailly
    Sepp Maier
    Denis Law
    Josef Masopust
    Oliver Kahn
    Ryan Giggs
    Jimmy Greaves
    Kazimierz Deyna
    Rob Rensenbrink
    John Robertson
    Roger Milla
    Preben Elkjaer
    Jean Tigana
    Jan Ceulemans
    Glenn Hoddle
    Pierre Littbarski
    Gary Lineker
    John Barnes
    Enzo Scifo
    Claudio Caniggia
    Paul Gascoigne
    Gianfranco Zola
    Davor Suker
    Henrik Larsson
    David Beckham
    Robinho
    Ruud van Nistelrooy
    Johnny Rep
    Wolfgang Overath
    Paul Breitner
    Kevin Keegan
    Ademir Marques de Menezes
    Angel Labruna
    Javier Zanetti
    Claude Makalele
    Luis Monti
    Fernando Peyroteo
    Alberto Spencer
    Cesar Cueto
    Ricardo Zamora

    And the current overall standings:

    Pele 449
    Diego Maradona 436
    Johan Cruyff 432
    Alfredo Di Stéfano 417
    Franz Beckenbauer 401
    Michel Platini 397
    Ferenc Puskás 393
    George Best 363
    Garrincha 356
    Eusebio 351
    Zico 349
    Zinedine Zidane 340
    Bobby Charlton 339
    Ronaldo 318
    Marco van Basten 311
    Gerd Müller 302
    Romario 249
    Lev Yashin 247
    Bobby Moore 239
    Paolo Maldini 235
    Franco Baresi 232
    Didí 210
    Lothar Matthäus200
    Stanley Matthews 196
    Ruud Gullit 182
    Rivelino 173
    Roberto Baggio 173
    Leonidas 126
    José Manuel Moreno 117
    Giuseppe Meazza 116
    Ronaldinho 111
    Zizinho 109
    Fritz Walter 104
    Gianni Rivera 95
    Raymond Kopa 95
    Thierry Henry 87
    Ladislao Kubala 84
    Sandor Kocsis 82
    Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 81
    Lionel Messi 74
    Dennis Bergkamp 71
    Kenny Dalglish 70
    Daniel Passarella 65
    Matthias Sindelar 60
    Peter Schmeichel 59
    Adolfo Pedernera 51
    Johan Neeskens 50
    Dino Zoff 50
    Michael Laudrup 48
    George Weah 48
    Sandro Mazzola 46
    Omar Sivori 43
    Jürgen Klinsmann 42
    Juan Alberto Schiaffino 41
    Elías Figueroa 39
    Luis Suarez 39
    Hector Scarone 36
    John Charles 36
    Josef Bican 36
    Uwe Seeler 36
    Giacinto Facchetti 36
    Duncan Edwards 35
    Roberto Carlos 34
    Frank Rijkaard 34
    Luís Figo 33
    Arsenio Erico 33
    Teófilo Cubillas 33
    Rivaldo 32
    Gordon Banks 32
    Dejan Savicevic 31
    Paolo Rossi 29
    Francisco Gento 29
    Gabriel Batistuta 28
    Gheorghe Hagi 28
    Nilton Santos 28
    Gyorgy Sarosi28
    Andriy Shevchenko 27
    Hristo Stoichkov 27
    Cafú 27
    Cristiano Ronaldo 26
    Kaká 25
    Carlos Alberto 24
    Jairzinho 24
    Dragan Dzajic 24
    Valentino Mazzola 23
    Hugo Sanchez 23
    José Leandro Andrade 21
    Imre Schlosser 18
    Tom Finney18
    Mario Kempes 17
    Jozsef Bozsik 16
    Just Fontaine 16
    Nándor Hidegkuti 15
    Ruud Krol 14
    Falcao 14
    Emilio Butragueño 12
    Gunnar Nordahl 12
    Tostao 12
    Djalma Santos 11
    Francesco Totti10
    Gaetano Scirea10
    Zbigniew Boniek 9
    Eric Cantona9
    Enzo Francescoli 8
    Matthias Sammer7
    Raul6
    Robert Pires4
    Gerson4
    Telmo Zarra 2
    Patrick Vieira2
    Fernando Redondo 1
    Artur Friedenreich 1
    Socrates 1
    Brian Laudrup1
     
  8. KyleP

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    As everyone else seems to be, I will probably revise my initial list as well later on. The first one was done perhaps a bit too hastily and off the top of my head. There are definitely a few changes I need to make.
     
  9. PDG1978

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    I'm highlighting in green the retired players not in the Fifa 100, either of the World Soccer Player of the Century lists (readers 100 and writers 100) or the IFFHS World Player of the Century top 50. In red are the current players this applies to also.
     
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    OK Kyle, I'll get ready to adjust the rankings. Will the changes include taking Cruyff off top spot I wonder?
     
  11. PDG1978

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    I haven't checked all the players I highlighted in green against all of the lists but Suarez and Krol are definately mentioned (in the first one I looked at to check just now).
     
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    It's curious how the perspective changes when are defined the positions:

    Goalkeepers

    1. YASHIN, Lev (Soviet Union)
    2. ZOFF, Dino (Italy)
    3. SCHMEICHEL, Peter (Denmark)
    4. BANKS, Gordon (England)
    5. MAIER, Sepp (Germany)
    6. BUFFON, Gianluigi (Italy)
    7. ZAMORA, Ricardo (Spain)
    8. SHILTON, Peter (England)
    9. KAHN, Oliver (Germany)
    10. PLÁNICKA, Frantisek (Czechoslovakia)

    (Rinat Dasayev, Amadeo Carrizo, Ladislao Mazurkiewicz, Gyula Grosics, Pat Jennings)

    Centrebacks / Sweepers

    1. BECKENBAUER, Franz (Germany)
    2. BARESI, Franco (Italy)
    3. MOORE, Bobby (England)
    4. PASSARELLA, Daniel (Argentina)
    5. SCIREA, Gaetano (Italy)
    6. KROL, Ruud (Netherlands)
    7. DESAILLY, Marcel (France)
    8. FIGUEROA, Elías (Chile)
    9. NESTA, Alessandro (Italy)
    10. SANTAMARÍA, José Emilio (Uruguay)

    (Giuseppe Bergomi, Domingos da Guia, Héctor Chumpitaz, Alan Hansen, Jürgen Kohler)

    Fullbacks

    1. MALDINI, Paolo (Italy)
    2. NILTON SANTOS (Brazil)
    3. ROBERTO CARLOS (Brazil)
    4. FACCHETTI, Giacinto (Italy)
    5. CARLOS ALBERTO (Brazil)
    6. CAFÚ (Brazil)
    7. THURAM, Lilian (France)
    8. DJALMA SANTOS (Brazil)
    9. VOGTS, Berti (Germany)
    10. ZANETTI, Javier (Argentina)

    (Karl-Heinz Schnellinger, Eddie Hapgood, Silvio Marzolini, José Antonio Camacho, Bob Crompton)

    Defensive Midfielders

    1. RIJKAARD, Frank (Netherlands)
    2. MONTI, Luis (Argentina)
    3. BOZSIK, József (Hungary)
    4. VARELA, Obdulio (Uruguay)
    5. MAKÉLÉLÉ, Claude (France)
    6. SZYMANIAK, Horst (Germany)
    7. VAN HANEGEM, Wim (Netherlands)
    8. MACKAY, Dave (Scotland)
    9. TARDELLI, Marco (Italy)
    10. TIGANA, Jean (France)

    (Patrick Vieira, Billy Bremner, Edgar Davids, Zito, Graeme Souness)

    Central Midfielders

    1. DIDÍ (Brazil)
    2. MATTHÄUS, Lothar (Germany)
    3. FALCAO (Brazil)
    4. GÉRSON (Brazil)
    5. ANDRADE, José Leandro (Uruguay)
    6. NEESKENS, Johan (Netherlands)
    7. REDONDO, Fernando (Argentina)
    8. MASOPUST, Josef (Czechoslovakia)
    9. OCWIRK, Ernst (Austria)
    10. ROBSON, Bryan (England)

    (Mário Coluna, Roy Keane, Danny Blanchflower, Osvaldo Ardiles, Xavi)

    Attacking Midfielders

    1. MARADONA, Diego (Argentina)
    2. PLATINI, Michel (France)
    3. ZICO (Brazil)
    4. ZIDANE, Zinedine (France)
    5. ZIZINHO (Brazil)
    6. RIVELINO, Roberto (Brazil)
    7. RONALDINHO (Brazil)
    8. RIVALDO (Brazil)
    9. GULLIT, Ruud (Netherlands)
    10. RIVERA, Gianni (Italy)

    (Raymond Kopa, Luis Suárez, Michael Laudrup, Teófilo Cubillas, Valentino Mazzola)

    Side Midfielders / Wingers

    1. GARRINCHA (Brazil)
    2. BEST, George (Northern Ireland)
    3. MATTHEWS, Stanley (England)
    4. FIGO, Luís (Portugal)
    5. DZAJIC, Dragan (Yugoslavia)
    6. GENTO, Francisco (Spain)
    7. JAIRZINHO (Brazil)
    8. FINNEY, Tom (England)
    9. JOHNSTONE, Jimmy (Scotland)
    10. HAMRIN, Kurt (Sweden)

    (Zbigniew Boniek, Ryan Giggs, Zoltán Czibor, Cristiano Ronaldo, Rob Rensenbrink)

    Support Strikers

    1. PELÉ (Brazil)
    2. CRUYFF, Johan (Netherlands)
    3. DI STÉFANO, Alfredo (Argentina)
    4. MORENO, José Manuel (Argentina)
    5. BAGGIO, Roberto (Italy)
    6. WALTER, Fritz (Germany)
    7. MEAZZA, Giuseppe (Italy)
    8. SINDELAR, Matthias (Austria)
    9. PEDERNERA, Adolfo (Argentina)
    10. HENRY, Thierry (France)

    (László Kubala, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Omar Sívori, Kenny Dalglish, Kevin Keegan)

    Strikers

    1. PUSKÁS, Ferenc (Hungary)
    2. RONALDO (Brazil)
    3. MÜLLER, Gerd (Germany)
    4. EUSÉBIO (Portugal)
    5. ROMÁRIO (Brazil)
    6. VAN BASTEN, Marco (Netherlands)
    7. LEONIDAS (Brazil)
    8. SEELER, Uwe (Germany)
    9. KOCSIS, Sándor (Hungary)
    10. BICAN, Josef (Czechoslovakia)

    (Gunnar Nordahl, Gabriel Batistuta, Jimmy Greaves, Just Fontaine, Arsenio Erico)
     
  13. braine

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    Checkin' all this 12 lists is an enormous job,you would end up sure over more than 500 players I suppose...
     
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    RONALDO was successor, according to official FIFA "His outstanding skills have already led to his being seen as the certain successor to Pele himself"
    "Ronaldo was only 17 when he picked up his first FIFA World Cup winner's medal at USA 94 - the same age as a young prodigy named Pele back in 1958. "
    "His first FIFA Player of the Year award came in 1996 when he had just turned 20, and to this day he is the youngest player to have won the trophy. '
    'Players with the most goals scored in World Cup history,RONALDO1998, 2002, 20061915"PlayerEditionDateFirst MatchStageAge[​IMG] EDU196612/07/1966BRA2:0 (1:0)BUL16Y-11M-06D
    RONALDO199420/06/1994BRA2:0 (1:0)RUS17Y-08M-29D
     
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    Here is my Top 100 (Ronaldo and Zidane,Ronaldinho are variables,If want to know that which one is better,need when them retire)
    1."Pelé" (Brazil)
    2.Franz Beckenbauer (Germany)
    3.Alfredo di Stéfano (Argentina)
    4.Johan Cruijff (Netherlands)
    5.Garrincha (Brazil)
    6.Diego Armando Maradona (Argentina)
    7.Ronaldo (Brazil)
    8.Ferenc Puskás (Hungary)
    9.Gerd Muller (Germany)
    10.Eusébio (Portugal)
    11.Zico (Brazil)
    12.Michel Platini (France)
    13.Romário de Souza Faria (Brazil)
    14.Ronaldinho (Brazil)
    15.Zidane (France)
    16.Bobby Moore (England)
    17.Robert Charlton (England)
    18.George Best (N. Ireland)
    19.Raymond Kopa (France)
    20.Paolo Rossi (Italy)
    21.Marco van Basten (Netherlands)
    22.Ruud Gullit (Netherlands)
    23.Lothar Matthäus (Germany)
    24.Franco Baresi (Italy)
    25.Lev Yashin (Soviet Union)
    26.Dino Zoff (Italy)
    27.Thomas Soãres "Zizinho" (Brazil)
    28.Arthur Friedenreich (Brazil)
    29.Mario Alberto Kempes (Argentina)
    30.Giuseppe Meazza (Italy)
    31.Just Fontaine (France)
    32.Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (Germany)
    33.Roberto Baggio (Italy)
    34.Luis Figo (Portugal)
    35.Rivaldo (Brazil)
    36.Paolo Maldini (Italy)
    37.Paulo Roberto Falcão (Brazil)
    38. Roberto Rivelino (Brazil)
    39.Kevin Keegan (England )
    40.Sándor Kocsis (Hungary)
    41.George Weah (Liberia)
    42.Batistuta (Argentina)
    43.Sepp Maier (Germany)
    44.Kahn (Germany)
    45.Kaka (Brazil)
    46.Fabio Cannavaro (Italy)
    47.Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands)
    48.Michael Laudrup (Denmark)
    49.Gary Lineker (England)
    50.Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay)
     
  18. Perú FC

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    And probably would be ranked between the biggest legends (Pelé, Maradona, Cruyff, Di Stéfano, Beckenbauer...) if he had mantain his higher peak during all his career. Sadly the injuries impeded him during a great part (from 1999 to 2002 and from 2006 to 2008, around 6 or 7 years), a great point in against because the biggest legends had constant careers in the highest level also.
     
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    The idea that the likes of Ronaldo and Messi don't deserve to be on the list is stupid. They aren't promising youngsters but proven players. Players who are amongst the best the world has ever seen.

    These 2 players are likely to compete between them for the Ballon D'or for years to come.
     
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    Ronaldo was very good in 1999 American Cup and Inter milan ,though he was absentation in some games,and 2002 ronaldo was great in all year, and in first half of 2006 ronaldo aslo good and played good in world cup and 07 in AC milan he was named 97-07 Serie A best player by Italy Football Association,and ronaldo scored 23 goals in last season in Corinthians ,named Sao Paulo League and Brazil Cup best player ,he was only injuries in 2000,01 and 08,he was best Cruzeiro ever,maybe he scored 58 goals in 60 matches in 1993-94,and until now,he alway world hard,and scored one goal just now in South American Copa Libertadores,yes ,ronaldo was not as good as he played in the 90's,but maradona even never won a America Cup,and suspension in 91-92,after that the he is never as good as he played in the 80's,maradona good years from 78-90,ronaldo good years from 93-99 and 02-06.
    Ronaldo in his peak > maradona in his peak,ronaldo in 07-10 > maradona in 92-96

    If not because 1986 world cup,maradona is not better than ronaldo,even though had a greatest world cup,I still think ronaldo's career

    RONALDO's achievement in his career was greatest:
    Player
    Cruzeiro
    Minas Gerais State League: 1994
    Brazil Cup: 1993
    PSV Eindhoven
    KNVB Cup: 1996
    Barcelona
    Spanish Cup: 1997
    UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1997
    Spanish Supercup: 1996
    Internazionale
    UEFA Cup: 1998
    Real Madrid
    Spanish League: 2003, 2007
    Intercontinental Cup: 2002
    UEFA Super Cup: 2002
    Spanish Supercup: 2003
    Corinthians
    São Paulo State League: 2009
    Brazil Cup: 2009
    National team
    FIFA World Cup: 1994, 2002; runner-up 1998
    Copa América: 1997, 1999; runner-up 1995
    FIFA Confederations Cup: 1997
    1996 Summer Olympics: Bronze medal
    Individual
    Supercopa Libertadores Top Scorer: 1993-94
    Campeonato Mineiro Top Scorer: 1993-94
    Campeonato Mineiro Team of The Year: 1994
    Eredivisie Top Scorer: 1994-95
    La Liga Top Scorer: 1996-97,2003-2004
    European Golden Boot: 1996-97
    Don Balón Award La Liga Foreign Player of the Year: 1996-97
    Copa América Final Most Valuable Player: 1997
    Copa América Most Valuable Player: 1997
    Confederations Cup All-Star Team: 1997
    Cup Winners Cup Final Most Valuable Player: 1997
    Cup Winners Cup Top Goal Scorer: 1996-1997
    IFFHS World's Top Goal Scorer of the Year: 1997
    UEFA Most Valuable Player: 1997-98
    Serie A Footballer of the Year: 1997-98
    Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 1997-98
    UEFA Best Forward: 1997-98
    Bravo Award : 1995, 1997, 1998
    FIFA World Cup Golden Ball: 1998
    UEFA Cup Final Most Valuable Player: 1998
    Copa América Top Scorer: 1999
    Copa América All-Star Team: 1997, 1999
    FIFA World Player of the Year: 1996, 1997, 2002
    Ballon D'or: 1997, 2002
    World Soccer Magazine World Player of The Year: 1996,1997.2002
    Onze d'Or: 1997, 2002
    FIFA World Cup Silver Ball: 2002
    FIFA 100
    FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1998, 2002
    FIFA World Cup Final Most Valuable Player: 2002
    FIFA World Cup Top Scorer: 2002
    Intercontinental Cup Most Valuable Player: 2002
    UEFA Team of The Year: 2002
    Laureus Comeback of the Year: 2002
    Strogaldo De Legendary Award 2002
    BBC Sports Personality of the Year Overseas Personality: 2002
    La Liga South American Player of the Year: 1996-97, 2002-03
    Golden Foot: 2006
    Brazilian National Hall of Fame inducated: Class of 2006
    Serie A Player of the Decade: 1997-2007
    France Football Magazine: Starting eleven of all-time: 2007
    FIFA World Cup All-Time Scoring Leader
    Campeonato Paulista Best Player: 2009


    And I think there is no one player could won 5 times Best Player of year (3 times FIFA world player ,2 times Ballon D'or),and no one could scored 15 goals in world cup.
    So if you ask me,zidane vs ronaldo, who was greater,I would pick the fat bay
     
  21. khan096

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    This is football
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M7R8nKMxlo"]YouTube- Ronaldo Best Solist ever[/ame]
     
  22. PDG1978

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    Thanks for the vote Khan096, here is the effect on the current standings:
    Pele 499
    Diego Maradona 481
    Johan Cruyff 479
    Alfredo Di Stéfano 465
    Franz Beckenbauer 450
    Michel Platini 436
    Ferenc Puskás 436
    Garrincha 402
    George Best 396
    Eusebio 392
    Zico 389
    Zinedine Zidane 376
    Bobby Charlton 373
    Ronaldo 362
    Gerd Müller 344
    Marco van Basten 341
    Romario 287
    Bobby Moore 274
    Lev Yashin 273
    Franco Baresi 259
    Paolo Maldini 250
    Lothar Matthäus 228
    Ruud Gullit 211
    Didí 210
    Stanley Matthews 196
    Roberto Baggio 191
    Rivelino 186
    Ronaldinho 148
    Giuseppe Meazza 137
    Zizinho 133
    Raymond Kopa 127
    Leonidas 126
    José Manuel Moreno 117
    Fritz Walter 104
    Gianni Rivera 95
    Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 100
    Sandor Kocsis 93
    Thierry Henry 87
    Ladislao Kubala 84
    Dennis Bergkamp 75
    Dino Zoff 75
    Lionel Messi 74
    Kenny Dalglish 70
    Daniel Passarella 65
    Matthias Sindelar 60
    Paolo Rossi 60
    Peter Schmeichel 59
    George Weah 58
    Adolfo Pedernera 51
    Michael Laudrup 51
    Luís Figo 50
    Johan Neeskens 50
    Rivaldo 48
    Sandro Mazzola 46
    Omar Sivori 43
    Jürgen Klinsmann 42
    Juan Alberto Schiaffino 41
    Elías Figueroa 39
    Luis Suarez 39
    Mario Kempes 39
    Gabriel Batistuta 37
    Just Fontaine 36
    Hector Scarone 36
    John Charles 36
    Josef Bican 36
    Uwe Seeler 36
    Giacinto Facchetti 36
    Duncan Edwards 35
    Roberto Carlos 34
    Frank Rijkaard 34
    Arsenio Erico 33
    Teófilo Cubillas 33
    Gordon Banks 32
    Dejan Savicevic 31
    Kaká 31
    Francisco Gento 29
    Gheorghe Hagi 28
    Nilton Santos 28
    Gyorgy Sarosi28
    Falcao 28
    Andriy Shevchenko 27
    Hristo Stoichkov 27
    Cafú 27
    Cristiano Ronaldo 26
    Carlos Alberto 24
    Jairzinho 24
    Dragan Dzajic 24
    Artur Friedenreich 24
    Valentino Mazzola 23
    Hugo Sanchez 23
    José Leandro Andrade 21
    Imre Schlosser 18
    Tom Finney18
    Jozsef Bozsik 16
    Nándor Hidegkuti 15
    Ruud Krol 14
    Emilio Butragueño 12
    Gunnar Nordahl 12
    Tostao 12
    Kevin Keegan 12
    Djalma Santos 11
    Francesco Totti10
    Gaetano Scirea10
    Zbigniew Boniek 9
    Eric Cantona9
    Enzo Francescoli 9
    Sepp Maier 8
    Matthias Sammer7
    Oliver Kahn 7
    Raul6
    Fabio Cannavaro 5
    Robert Pires4
    Gerson4
    Telmo Zarra 2
    Patrick Vieira2
    Fernando Redondo 1
    Gary Lineker 2
    Socrates 1
    Brian Laudrup1
     
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  24. PDG1978

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    Some corrections were needed to the standings because of oversights when I was adjusting my own vote. I'd taken a point too many off Neeskens and hadn't taken the points off Romario, Batistuta, Rivelino, Messi, C. Ronaldo, Kempes, Rossi, Stoichkov, Charles, Butragueno, Francescoli or Boniek.
    Here is the correct and up-to-date (after Kahn096's vote too) version:
    Pele 499
    Diego Maradona 481
    Johan Cruyff 479
    Alfredo Di Stéfano 465
    Franz Beckenbauer 450
    Michel Platini 436
    Ferenc Puskás 436
    Garrincha 402
    George Best 396
    Eusebio 392
    Zico 389
    Zinedine Zidane 376
    Bobby Charlton 373
    Ronaldo 362
    Gerd Müller 344
    Marco van Basten 341
    Romario 275
    Bobby Moore 274
    Lev Yashin 273
    Franco Baresi 259
    Paolo Maldini 250
    Lothar Matthäus 228
    Ruud Gullit 211
    Didí 210
    Stanley Matthews 196
    Roberto Baggio 191
    Rivelino 176
    Ronaldinho 148
    Giuseppe Meazza 137
    Zizinho 133
    Raymond Kopa 127
    Leonidas 126
    José Manuel Moreno 117
    Fritz Walter 104
    Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 100
    Gianni Rivera 95
    Sandor Kocsis 93
    Thierry Henry 87
    Ladislao Kubala 84
    Dennis Bergkamp 75
    Dino Zoff 75
    Kenny Dalglish 70
    Lionel Messi 65
    Daniel Passarella 65
    Matthias Sindelar 60
    Peter Schmeichel 59
    George Weah 58
    Paolo Rossi 54
    Adolfo Pedernera 51
    Michael Laudrup 51
    Johan Neeskens 51
    Luís Figo 50
    Rivaldo 48
    Sandro Mazzola 46
    Omar Sivori 43
    Jürgen Klinsmann 42
    Juan Alberto Schiaffino 41
    Elías Figueroa 39
    Luis Suarez 39
    Just Fontaine 36
    Hector Scarone 36
    Josef Bican 36
    Uwe Seeler 36
    Giacinto Facchetti 36
    Duncan Edwards 35
    Roberto Carlos 34
    Frank Rijkaard 34
    Arsenio Erico 33
    Teófilo Cubillas 33
    John Charles 32
    Mario Kempes 32

    Gordon Banks 32
    Dejan Savicevic 31
    Kaká 31
    Francisco Gento 29
    Gheorghe Hagi 28
    Nilton Santos 28
    Gyorgy Sarosi28
    Falcao 28
    Andriy Shevchenko 27
    Cafú 27
    Gabriel Batistuta 26
    Carlos Alberto 24
    Jairzinho 24
    Dragan Dzajic 24
    Artur Friedenreich 24
    Valentino Mazzola 23
    Hugo Sanchez 23
    Hristo Stoichkov 22
    José Leandro Andrade 21
    Imre Schlosser 18
    Tom Finney18
    Cristiano Ronaldo 18
    Jozsef Bozsik
    16
    Nándor Hidegkuti 15
    Ruud Krol 14
    Gunnar Nordahl 12
    Tostao 12
    Kevin Keegan 12
    Djalma Santos 11
    Francesco Totti10
    Gaetano Scirea10
    Emilio Butragueño 9
    Eric Cantona9
    Zbigniew Boniek 8
    Sepp Maier 8
    Enzo Francescoli 7
    Matthias Sammer7
    Oliver Kahn 7
    Raul6
    Fabio Cannavaro 5
    Robert Pires4
    Gerson4
    Telmo Zarra 2
    Patrick Vieira2
    Gary Lineker 2
    Fernando Redondo 1
    Socrates 1
    Brian Laudrup1
     
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    1 Pele 499
    2 Diego Maradona 481
    3 Johan Cruyff 479
    4 Alfredo Di Stéfano 465
    5 Franz Beckenbauer 450
    6= Michel Platini 436
    6= Ferenc Puskás 436
    8 Garrincha 402
    9 George Best 396
    10 Eusebio 392
    11 Zico 389
    12 Zinedine Zidane 376
    13 Bobby Charlton 373
    14 Ronaldo 362
    15 Gerd Müller 344
    16 Marco van Basten 341
    17 Romario 275
    18 Bobby Moore 274
    19 Lev Yashin 273
    20 Franco Baresi 259
    21 Paolo Maldini 250
    22 Lothar Matthäus 228
    23 Ruud Gullit 211
    24 Didí 210
    25 Stanley Matthews 196
    26 Roberto Baggio 191
    27 Rivelino 176
    28 Ronaldinho 148
    29 Giuseppe Meazza 137
    30 Zizinho 133
    31 Raymond Kopa 127
    32 Leonidas 126
    33 José Manuel Moreno 117
    34 Fritz Walter 104
    35 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 100
    36 Gianni Rivera 95
    37 Sandor Kocsis 93
    38 Thierry Henry 87
    39 Ladislao Kubala 84
    40= Dennis Bergkamp 75
    40= Dino Zoff 75
    42 Kenny Dalglish 70
    43= Lionel Messi 65
    43= Daniel Passarella 65
    45 Matthias Sindelar 60
    46 Peter Schmeichel 59
    47 George Weah 58
    48 Paolo Rossi 54
    49= Adolfo Pedernera 51
    49= Michael Laudrup 51
    49= Johan Neeskens 51
    52 Luís Figo 50
    53 Rivaldo 48
    54 Sandro Mazzola 46
    55 Omar Sivori 43
    56 Jürgen Klinsmann 42
    57 Juan Alberto Schiaffino 41
    58= Elías Figueroa 39
    58= Luis Suarez 39
    60= Just Fontaine 36
    60= Hector Scarone 36
    60= Josef Bican 36
    60= Uwe Seeler 36
    60= Giacinto Facchetti 36
    65 Duncan Edwards 35
    66= Roberto Carlos 34
    66= Frank Rijkaard 34
    68= Arsenio Erico 33
    68= Teófilo Cubillas 33
    70= John Charles 32
    70= Mario Kempes 32

    70= Gordon Banks 32
    73= Dejan Savicevic 31
    73= Kaká 31
    75 Francisco Gento 29
    76= Gheorghe Hagi 28
    76= Nilton Santos 28
    76= Gyorgy Sarosi 28
    76= Falcao 28
    80= Andriy Shevchenko 27
    80= Cafú 27
    82 Gabriel Batistuta 26
    83= Carlos Alberto 24
    83= Jairzinho 24
    83= Dragan Dzajic 24
    83= Artur Friedenreich 24
    87= Valentino Mazzola 23
    87= Hugo Sanchez 23
    89 Hristo Stoichkov 22
    90 José Leandro Andrade 21
    91= Imre Schlosser 18
    91= Tom Finney 18
    91= Cristiano Ronaldo 18
    94 Jozsef Bozsik 16
    95 Nándor Hidegkuti 15
    96 Ruud Krol 14
    97= Gunnar Nordahl 12
    97= Tostao 12
    97= Kevin Keegan 12
    100 Djalma Santos 11
    101= Francesco Totti 10
    101= Gaetano Scirea 10
    103= Emilio Butragueño 9
    103= Eric Cantona 9
    105= Zbigniew Boniek 8
    105= Sepp Maier 8
    107= Enzo Francescoli 7
    107= Matthias Sammer 7
    107= Oliver Kahn 7
    110 Raul 6
    111 Fabio Cannavaro 5
    112= Robert Pires 4
    112= Gerson 4
    114= Telmo Zarra 2
    114= Patrick Vieira 2
    114= Gary Lineker 2
    117= Fernando Redondo 1
    117= Socrates 1
    117= Brian Laudrup 1
     

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