Discussion in 'Korea' started by Seol Korea, Jan 26, 2012.
Continued from here
Its time to saygoodbye
So something interesting. Actor Song Kang Ho's son...
has been selected in the U-16 KNT training squad. Plays for Suwon's youth.
Song Joon Pyung.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkBEhh-bdGk"]???(Ahn Jung-Hwan) ?? ???? - YouTube[/ame]
Have to read this:
김현회 | 안정환, 화려함 뒤에 가려진 슬픈 이야기
Probably while listening to some music. Like this?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-pjWpCSAVI&feature=related"]YB - ????? - YouTube[/ame]
Can you guys translate it, roughly?
"I've experienced many different football cultures in different countries, and those were really lucky times of my life.
"I reached the World Cup three times, and I enjoyed everything a football player could have enjoyed."
Ahn admitted he felt in good enough physical condition to play on and had been linked with K-League club Seongnam Ilhwa but said he wanted to prioritise his family after many years in the game.
"Over my 14-year career, my family has made a lot of sacrifices. I want to spend more time with them and just be a normal dad," he said.
"I have been working hard on my own and I felt I could still play. But on the other hand, I felt pressure that I had to live up to people's expectations. I wanted to come back to the K-League and it's been a very difficult month."
There had been talk in South Korea that the man known as 'The Lord of the Ring' could make a cameo in next month's friendly against Uzbekistan, however Ahn played down such speculation claiming the match was crucial preparation for the February 29 World Cup qualifier against Kuwait.
"This is a critical moment for Korean football, and I just felt it would be detrimental to the development of our football if I played before an important game," Ahn said.
"I don't think it's appropriate to put my personal matters ahead of the World Cup."
got it from goal.com but those are the main highlights
Saying he has been training hard on his own and is fit enough makes you think a final K-League season would be most appropriate. But perhaps only for the fans.
Thank you, Geseki
Hong Myung-bo's performance in ROK's first match of the 2002 World Cup against Poland
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNY4VfH2LxM"]HONG Myung-bo vs Poland, 2002 World Cup - YouTube[/ame]
South Korean veteran Kim Dong-Jin has revealed he still harbours hopes of returning to the national team set-up and be involved in the 2014 Fifa World Cup.
The 30-year-old left-sided defender recently joined Chinese Super League club Hangzhou Greentown after a disappointing 2011 at FC Seoul leading to some critics suggesting he was finished as a player having had previous health problems.
Kim, who has 62 caps to his name and was part of the 2006 and 2010 World Cup squads, has not been in the national team frame in recent times.
However, the former Zenit St Petersburg man told Ilgan Sports he still harboured the ambition to return to the Taeguk Warriors set-up.
"If I work hard for my club, I believe I will get a chance to be back with the national team. I will do everything I can in order to play at the 2014 Fifa World Cup in Brazil," he said.
New South Korea coach Choi Kang-Hee named a squad full of veterans for the upcoming matches against Uzbekistan and Kuwait and Kim said that encouraged him.
"I saw my good friends such as Choi Tae-Wook, Ha Dae-Sung and Oh Beom-Suk rejoining the national team," he said. "I also gained hope from that.
"As a football player, we all have a dream to play for the national team and compete at the World Cup. I was honoured to be compared to Lee Young-Pyo. But I’m over my past."
As for his recent move to China, Kim explained he was enticed to Hangzhou by their new coach, former Japan boss Takeshi Okada despite interest from the J-League and Ukrainian giants Dynamo Kiev.
"I know Kiev is a good team because former AC Milan player Andriy Shevchenko is currently playing there. But after a lot of consideration I chose Hangzhou because coach Okada approached me directly. He valued my experience," he said.
He added: "I’m especially looking forward to meeting Nicolas Anelka who moved to Shanghai Shenhua from English club Chelsea. My first goal is to win a regular season championship with coach Okada and help the team to reach the AFC Champions League."
what world cup
According to popular belief, soccer was first introduced into Korea in June 1882 when the British warship, HMS Flying Fish, arrived at Chemulpo (modern day Incheon). Allegedly, while Admiral Willes was concluding the British-Korean treaty, several crew members of the HMS Flying Fish went ashore, played soccer, and then left the soccer ball with a group of Korean children.
During the 2002 World Cup, this story was often repeated as a fact. Sports Illustrated wrote: "Incheon is said to be the birthplace of soccer in Korea. A group of children imitated crewmen from a visiting British warship playing kick-about in 1882. The sailors left a couple of leather soccer balls behind when they left."
Even noted historians have given credence to this story. Prof. Andrei Lankov misidentified the ship as the Flying Horse, but supported Sports Illustrated's story when he wrote: "While off duty, the British sailors decided to play a game of football -- to the great amusement and bewilderment of Koreans present at the scene. This was obviously the first football match in Korea's history, and now 1882 is considered to be the year when football was first introduced in Korea."
Other writers give a more negative view of the events:
JoongAng Daily wrote: "It must have been very hot in June that summer. It must have been frustrating to spend several days on board a ship while landing permission was delayed. The crews of the Flying Fish, a British survey ship, played soccer on the deck. But the 67-ton ship must have been too small for that. The sailors stealthily got off the ship and kicked the ball at the Yeonan Pier in the port of Incheon. Surprised at the noise, Joseon soldiers roused them and the sailors hurriedly returned to the ship. They forgot to take their equipment with them, and a soccer ball was left behind. The children who were watching the whole scene took the ball and started to play with it. In 1882, soccer arrived in Korea very quietly." 
Skynews echoed JoongAng Daily's account: "Crews bored to death got off the ship and played kicking a football in a pier without getting permission from the Korean authorities (That was late Chosun period). When Chosun soldiers raided the site, the crews fled to their ship leaving a soccer ball. Kids watching the soccer game of the British sailors curiously took the ball and played kicking it. That was the start of soccer here in Korea."
But was this truly the start of soccer in Korea? The story is obviously supported by the Korean and British government, as evidenced by their web pages and press releases. According to an email correspondence with the British Embassy's public affairs section:
"... the 1882 story is supported by the Korean Football Association, the Royal Navy and the Embassy."
The Korean Football Association public affairs office could not shed any light on the story's origin, despite the fact that they have published a book on the history of soccer in Korea. When asked for historical citation, the public affairs officer stated that the story of the HMS Flying Fish's role in soccer history is a well-known fact.
History is filled with the "well-known facts" of famous men and events. Many Americans still believe that as a boy, George Washington chopped down a cherry tree and when confronted by his angry father confessed, "Father, I cannot tell a lie; I chopped down the cherry tree." However, a little bit of research reveals that the story is nothing more than a romantic attempt to "flesh out a believable and interesting figure [and] to humanize Washington."
Despite the British embassy's attempts over the past week to acquire documentation to support this story, it has been unable to. In fact, Dr. James E. Hoare, former British Ambassador to North Korea and noted historian, wrote:
"I tend to share Mr. Neff's doubts about this story, and I have never used it myself. If football was played anywhere, it would have been on Komundo, where the British were present for a long period."
We know that in the first week of June 1882 that there were two American, three British, one French, one Japanese, and five Chinese warships in the harbor of Incheon -- mainly as escorts or observers of the Western diplomatic efforts in Korea. Except for the French, all quickly conducted their business and were gone by June 8. There are no accounts in the English newspapers published in Japan or China, or in official dispatches mentioning the sailors going ashore for anything other than official business.
Incheon at this time was a very small village and when the warships arrived "the people became panic stricken; and old men, women and children fled to the hills..." It is very unlikely that the Korean children, let alone the adults, who were alleged to have great "antipathy to foreigners" would have approached the sailors.
"I agree," Dr. Hoare wrote, "that the general attitude towards foreigners was not conducive to setting up a game of football on the beach, and I am not sure that the naval authorities would have welcomed their men taking part in what was still a somewhat disorganized affair."
While it is possible that the event did occur but was not recorded, the burden of proof lies with those who insist that it did. So if soccer was not introduced into Korea in 1882, when was it introduced?
According to The Independent, Korea's first English-language newspaper, soccer was introduced in late November 1896 when Korean students at the Royal English School in Seoul were taught how to play soccer by an unnamed "foreign friend of the school." The following month, the editor of The Independent enthusiastically wrote:
"The boys go at it [playing soccer] with such vim and earnestness that they have won the praise and admiration of their instructor. It was a pleasure to see them in their natty uniforms, with their faces flushed, chasing after the leather sphere with such agility and in such a whole-souled manner, appearing as if their lives depended on the game."
Reverend Arthur B. Turner, an energetic Englishman well known for his prowess in soccer and cricket, springs to mind as the possible "foreign friend of the school," but Sergeant Boxwell, a member of the British Legation's guard who taught drill and ceremony at the school might also have been this anonymous soul.
Undoubtedly in the months to follow, the students had many matches among themselves, but the first international and public match took place on Saturday afternoon, March 26, 1897, in a field near the East Gate. Crew members of the British warship, HMS Narcissus, challenged the students and their coach to a friendly game of soccer -- Association Rules, of course. One must remember that soccer in those days was much rougher and probably more like rugby than the version of the game we know today.
While the names of all the participants of both teams are readily available, it is the Korean team that we are primarily interested in. The team was made up of Reverend Turner and several other Englishmen, but more than half the players were Korean. One particular player, Song Keung-san was noted for his excellent ability which "would not have disgraced an English public school boy."
The game was "well fought," but in the end, the Korean team was victorious with their single goal. The newspaper noted that it was "the first match in which any Koreans have played." But it wasn't the last game.
On Dec. 16, 1897, another game was held near the East Gate and once again the Korean team won both the match and praise from the "considerable number" of "enthusiastic spectators" who braved the bitterly cold weather to cheer on the Korean students. The final score was 6:2 but, as the newspaper editor noted "the most prominent feature of the game was the plucky way in which the Koreans tackled their stronger and heavier [English] opponents."
While there apparently is no evidence or questionable evidence at best, that the history of soccer began in 1882 with the coming of the British navy to Korea, there is no question that the first soccer matches between Korean students and English sailors were played in 1897. Matches that I might add, were won by the Koreans.
Thanks for the great stuff Geseki.
And I would like to express my appreciation to Ahn Jung-hwan. Without his presence, I would not be into the game of football very much nor enjoy the last 3 WCs, where he was involved in.
everyones favorite JJJ got married
I hope Choi Kang-Hee calls JJJ up for the game against Kuwait.
LOL they're fcukin high or what
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fDoOIMijdo"]Ko, Myong-Jin 2011 Special movie _ part2 - YouTube[/ame]
Not very detailed but no mention of KSY.
transfermarkt doesn't cover spl, i think
I have no idea what article Chosun Ilbo is referring to, but KSY has a profile page on Transfermarkt. http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/sung-yong-ki/profil/spieler_81796.html.
He's valued at 3.5 million euros (3.1 mill pounds)
Sandwiched right between SHM and KJC. Thought he might be on par or worth more than SHM despite playing in the SPL.
Separate names with a comma.