Leveraged Sellout - The Arsenal Finance Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Rewinder, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. crazy150

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    What!? I was using that to explain to Prince that some people of certain ethnic groups are not fond of advertising governments which they are highly critical of, that's all...but thanks for illustrating my point quite vividly. For the record, I was not suggesting that I'd rather have El Al as our shirt sponsor either.

    I'd prefer no sponsor at all, but if we are to have one in order to compete I'd prefer a more neutral sponsor in terms of political and world views go at least. It's touchy...I have some very religious friends in the South who will not buy merchandise for their favorite NASCAR drivers because they are sponsored by beer companies as well. There is also the Wonga problem at Newcastle which is annoying many devout muslims.


  2. thebigman

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    it's a fcuking name on a shirt, arsenal get money from emirates regardless

    if the adidas kit is gonna be nice.....ill wait till the end of the season and cop it for cheap dons
  3. DaPrince84

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    In fairness, I did not want to assume anything or else I would end up looking ignorant if I guessed wrong.

    hmmm

    I guess I get your point, to an extent. There are a lot of other things pertaining to these issues, that are associated with Arsenal that could also be seen as pretty offensive too.

    But its there prerogative.
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    I am kidding with you.


  5. lamb

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    the wider problem with wonga is more to do with what is seen as "preying" on people withwhat could be called legalised loan sharking. did you see much problem with newcastle's 20 years of alcohol sponsorship or 8 years of bank sponsorship?
  6. DaPrince84

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    in fairness to crazy150, he said its his friends, not him.
  7. total_football

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    Hmmm, saw this rumor on the BBC page: "Arsenal are set to announce a new kit deal with German sportswear giant Adidas to replace their current agreement with Nike. The Gunners will receive £22m a year, an increase on the £8m a year they earn currently.
    Full story: The Times"
  8. mebeSajid

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    That would be awesome - an extra 40m a year in sponsorship money, plus whatever extra Emirates is paying for the stadium.
  9. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

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    Seriously
  10. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

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    The sample kit look is pretty awesome.
  11. DutchCane

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    ManUtd is over the hills and away from the pack on commercial deals. I see no end in sight to their hegemony. Unfortunately Arsenal are just far far behind I'm curious what the footballing landscape will be like in 5 yrs commercial, and salary wise.
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    United are obviously way ahead of everyone. The only hope with them is that their owners drain money from the club, even more than now.

    Arsenal is decently situated to be in the top tier though. The biggest question will be how will the money be invested. Will it allow us to buy players, or simply catch up to the rest on wages and fees?
  13. mebeSajid

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    Catching up to the rest on wages and being able to spend 15m on players a season is the goal, isn't it? It just seems like we can only do one or the other, but not both.
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    This looks like a bad deal to me. On the Arsenal website they mention in passing at the end that this deal includes an extension to the stadium naming rights--so am I right in thinking that the stadium naming rights are included in this money? Someone correct me if not, but if naming rights aren't included in these other contracts we're comparing against, we are getting completely ripped off
  15. NorthBank

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    I'm no expert on shirt deals but it seems like this may not be so hot. Although it's a big increase on our last one, the reason for that is partly because we negotiated too long a term last time. Aren't we possibly doing that again? (assuming that the world of elite football is still on an always increasing curve of sponsorships)

    p.s. I too am not fond of this particular sponsor, but there are so many other uninspiring ones out there, like gambling websites. I'm resigned to seeing it on the shirt. It's the stadium naming rights that drives me nuts. I continue to call it The Grove every opportunity I have! :mad:
  16. mebeSajid

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    Depends on how much stadium naming rights are worth. Typically not more than 2-3 million per year IIRC
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    Really? That seems really out of whack to me
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    when they are broadcasting matches on television, the announcer has to tell you the match is at Emirates Stadium. No one has to tell us Emirates is on is on the front of the Arsenal shirt.
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    Thanks Prince for that very simple explanation... seems very plausible to me. I assume you're right about stadium naming being way cheaper than shirt naming.
  20. WoodDraw

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    They lose a ton of value after the first go too. I think the point of the naming rights extension is 1) people already widely call it the Emirates, so it makes sense, and 2) it locks our biggest sponsor into a long term relationship with the club. That'll help when we negotiate with them again next time around.
    DaPrince84 repped this.
  21. mebeSajid

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    I'm still disappointed that we resigned with Emirates. I had my heart said on someone like BMW.
  22. total_football

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    Saw this on FB, no source attributed: "
    Wenger: "When I arrived clubs were owned by
    people who loved the club. Now it’s a business
    model."
  23. mebeSajid

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    Is he saying this about Arsenal? Or about football in general?
  24. WoodDraw

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    He was asked something along the lines of, "How has football changed since you arrived?"
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