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Liverpool and Chelsea Fans Angry As FA Appoint Referee to Officiate at Cup Final

Discussion in 'Cups & Competitions' started by Appy Addick, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Appy Addick

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    Both Liverpool and Chelsea fans agree that neither side has any chance of winning the cup following the FA's decision to appoint a referee to take charge of the Cup Final.

    Fans of both clubs have pointed out that putting a referee in charge of such a high profile match will undoubtedly lead to decisions that will affect the outcome of the game.

    "Oh well, that's that game ruined, then" said Liverpool fan Bert Shankly. "This ref might make decisions that may not go in our favour and could result in us losing the match. How can that possibly be fair..?".

    Chelsea fans believe that it is all a big conspiracy intended to ensure that the laws of football are applied to the game, that could even see free kicks being awarded to the opposition.

    "Surely it's better to just let the players sort it out amongst themselves" said lifelong Chelsea fan Reg Cattermole. "If they can't make their minds up, just ask fans nearest to the incident."

    Calls to introduce goal line technology following Chelsea's controversial second goal against Tottenham in the semi final are rejected by Chelsea fans "I don't think goal line technology would have helped because if they'd had it, our second goal wouldn't have stood" said Mr Cattermole.

    “I think if there is an incident like that in a Chelsea game then the best way to determine whether it’s a goal or not would be to simply look at how happy or angry John Terry is.”

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  2. JohnClement

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    Well lets be honest they would be better off with a monkey than one of the current select group. You can easily recognise the monkey he is the one with hair. you can be pretty sure that the cup final will be ruined as a spectacle by the employment of officials who are idiots or criminals or most likely both.
     
  3. Jeremy Prius

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    I think goal line technology might really help ref not to make mistakes. There might be a kind of sharp sound be heard in ref's ear when the ball's in. Only I'm flatly against involving video replays in game - it'll ruin all dynamics of competition.
     
  4. Appy Addick

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    No on pitch referral system, eh..? By which token, I assume, you will be prepared to accept, without question, future refereeing errors, even those which disadvantage your team, or technology which is designed and programmed to operate according to the letter of the laws of football.

    Let me put this to you. The laws of football clearly state that for a goal to be scored, the whole of the ball must cross the goal line. Think about that. The WHOLE ball. Not just most of it, but all of it. 100%.

    Now, imagine very sensitive, very accurate goal line equipment installed and an incident occurs, late in the game, where your team is trailing by 1 goal and needs only an equaliser to qualify for the Champions League next season, or some such.

    The ball bounces down off the crossbar, apparently over the goal line. All eyes turn to the ref. He hears no beep in his headset and waves play on. At the final whistle, your team has lost the match and fails to qualify for next season's CL.

    It is later revealed that at the incident in question, the ball failed to cross the goal line by 1 millimtetre. Just one lousy millimetre of ball, which didn't cross the plane of the goal line was the difference between your team qualifying for the Champions League, and not.

    The technology did it's job flawlessly. The decision not to award the goal was correct. The result of the match is a fair and proper one within the laws of the game.

    And you, the management, players, and all the other fans of your club are going to accept that..?

    I don't think so.


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    So, John. What would you suggest as an alternative...?
     
  6. Mariazz

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    Thanks for sharing. [​IMG]
     
  7. cigar_city

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    Dynamics of competition? What the he11 s that mean?
    Stopping the flow of the game?
    I've never seen a situation where an apparent goal is disallowed and all hell does not break loose, stopping the game anyway.

    The replay would be instantaneous for the most part, and any official with an Iphone or other ref association distributed PDA could look and tell if a ball went in.

    The technology is available everywhere, even in poor regions of the world. It already exists and could be applied instantaneously.

    Video repaly is the no brainer cost effective solution.
     
  8. Appy Addick

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    I'm quite happy to accept goal line technology and I would go with whatever decision was made. I don't have a problem with that. I accept the laws of the game as they are and I've been around long enough to have learned to accept good and bad calls just the same. Then again, I'm an easy going sort of bloke who doesn't behave as if life and death is dependent on what happens on a football pitch. The same cannot be said of a lot of fans.

    The point of my "1 millimetre of ball" scenario is that once this technology is installed, there can be no arguing about the correctness of the decision....... only..... the reality won't be like that, will it..? Football fans being the biased, one-eyed,"my-team-above-all-others" tribal individuals that they are, the reality of such a situation is not going to be one where they accept the decision of the technology, even when it is absolutely correct unless it is in favour of their team. When the decision goes their way, it will be a "good call" but when their team is denied by the "1 millimetre", then what I forsee will be calls to change the laws of the game.

    I can hear Sky pundits and fans screaming from the rooftops "It's a stupid law" and "How can you deny a goal for the sake of one millimetre" and "It's time to change the laws". Another one I foresee will be "We need common sense in the game". And how long will it be before somebody comes up with a little gem like "Back in the good old days before this technology, refs would have given that goal".

    The simple truth is that football fans will never be happy when they feel their team is disadvantaged. When it's down to human error, the referees are blamed. When human error is taken out of the equation then I think it is inevitable that the laws themselves will be challenged.

    The law in football has ALWAYS been "The whole ball must cross the line" in any line situation. I think it won't be long before a high profile incident brings about calls for changes to the laws ................ but only from the disadvantaged team.


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  9. roby

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    This was posted in the Referee Thread.

    "I'm surprised the debate goes on when any fool can see that the solution is more officials. I propose 16 extra officials known as SRAARs (Superfluous Redundant Additional Assistant Referees). They will be place in the goal, 1 ball width behind the goal line. When one of them says "OW!", a goal has been scored. Easy solution without any of that technology nonsense to offend the purists."[​IMG]
     
  10. giangho

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    Thank you for sharing topic. It is very useful !!!
     

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