Don't we have 4 clean sheets in 15 or something similarly sad? Saf did not leave a bad team at all - he simply didn't leave his ethos, will to win, and absolute favor from the refs and the FA. Moyes is doing what he did at Everton - all about grinding out results, stifling creativity, and generally having no innovation. Pretty simple. But he has enough talent that they will overshadow him - ideally of course it will be too late then.