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  1. Mercurial4991

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    And so this confirms my hypothesis of the GS actually becoming a silo.

    The heel counter, unusual midfoot and cheap looking soleplate gave it away.
     


  2. 2nd_striker

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    anyone in the uk who plays on grass using mv8 sg at the moment? anyone in pain after matches?
     
  3. Honduras710

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    I wear a size 8.5US on my Merucurial Glide II. I have a wide foot and they fit well but my toes feel kinda squished. My question is should I get a 9US on the Vapor VII or will it stretch more and will the 8.5US be good enough?
     
  4. FootballerSeven

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    What happened David?
    I've said that before, aha. My Morelia Clubs are my 'go to' boot when my Vapors and Maestri's annoy me! Even though it's all mental aha.
     


  5. David89

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    linesman kept flagging me offside aha tbh he was from the other team so
     
  6. b0sk1

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    Vapors make you faster.
    CTRs make you a better passer.
    T90s make you shoot harder.
    Legend Elites make you drift offsides more?
    ;)
     
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  7. Clash10

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    The last one make sense ;) chicharito use Legend and he is always in offside!
     
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  8. Dr. Boots

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    Per the blackout boot.......I think it is one of a few things, and I have not had the benefit of seeing the upcoming lines I usually have due to being unable to drive for two months post ACL/meniscal surgery. This is all pure speculation from me, mind you.

    It could either be the new Vapor/SuperFly that goes beyond the upcoming update launching in 2013. The 2013 Vapor feels like a knee jerk reaction to get a little more life out of a design that hasn't lived up to expectations in terms of performance because of durability issues and the pretty awful stud system in FG. Releasing a totally new model 9 months after release as hyped as the Vapor VIII would be an admission of defeat, so the upper gets "improved" while the boot isn't drastically altered until this new model drops in late 2013 or early 2014. This prevents a total admission of failure, while giving the boot new life though a major update in design and fixes the studs to a more conical shape as the blade fad seems to be on its way out. The shoe keeps some of the GS concept influence and stays a Vapor.

    It could be the new Laser or Laser-ish boot. If anyone recalls, Nike said that everything from them would be going lightweight in the next few years. The Laser has been a pretty abject failure in terms of popularity from a retail standpoint since the Laser III more or less killed the line and the CTR took the role of the midfield boot or the "all around" best bet if you aren't fooled by position specific boot marketing. Pretty much every player in the new generation cares more about weight than anything else, and it is almost universally held that the Laser is "heavy" (I disagree, but....). Also the Laser/Total 90 has had an identity crisis for a while. The Total 90 was originally Nike's wider fitting and more comfortable alternative to the Vapor and much like a CTR in feel/fit. It was marketed for the "90 minute player, going from box to box" aka, midfielders. It then became the Laser which was Nike's answer to the Predator, and then was overhauled as a "strikers" boot for shooting power and then accuracy. Because of this manic existence, the boot has had some poor designs especially the Total 90 III, and the Laser III. This could be a new injection of life into the Laser line, with more focus on lightweight design, and a shocking overhaul to get people interested.

    Or it could be the GS II in retail form, which could mean a silo is going by the wayside to make room for it. Nike cannot realistically have five silos out on the market in full swing. The GS killed it in terms of sales and hype/interest, so that could have pushed the launch button for Nike. With that, I would expect the GS or GS influenced line to replace something. The smart money would be on the Laser line dying due to it being the stepchild of Nike silos at the moment.
     
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    I don't understand why people call the FG Vapor stud pattern 'awful'... In my opinion it most certainly isn't.
     
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  11. David89

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    ahaha I actually laugh out loud.

    Yeah, the guy doing the lines on the side i was from there team so he was going to call me offside either way.

    might trust wear my lasers then i can be onside though hit the ball with power and accuracy not need pace to beat the defenders;)


    Also regarding the lasers/t90 the t90III AZT's were the best boots in the world so comfy.
     
  12. 2nd_striker

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    got my mv8s today but im sure your supposed to get spare studs and boot bag with it...damn sports world
     
  13. David89

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    take them back
     
  14. Dr. Boots

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    In my experience it is too one demesional. It is questionable for 3G use because of instability for some, too much grip for others, and durability issues with the studs snapping. There is also the question of blade sharpness, which was rasied months ago by Bryan at SC101 and others and possibly backed by Rooney gash (it was one of the plastic blades that made the gash, unless the stud was sharpened). When using on firm ground it better be soft firm found or it will be like playing on ice skates. I tried to use them to warm up a keeper when coaching on firm ground that wasn't perfect and they didn't break the ground because the distribution of weight was not even enough. This made them dangerous from a joint injury standpoint.

    I think it was a nice try by Nike. But, it says something poor about the design when the SG-pro with old school hard ground screw in studs is better on firm and harder ground than the actual firm ground option (which oddly enought is pretty good on muddy ground).

    The lack of a true alternative in an AG model (even on NikeID) is appalling given the amount of 3G use in America, where Nike makes their home. Japan got a decent HG option, but it is still bladed; blades are falling out of fashion fast and the Super Ligera HG outsole would have been a great option of the Japanese market (and in the West).

    The Vapor was the best "almost" shoe from Nike in a while. I was pretty close to correctly done for what it was supposed to be, but it still fails when you get past the simplistic beauty of the upper design and the hype of the swoosh.
     
  15. 2nd_striker

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    bought online sent them a complaint!
     
  16. noob-bob

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    To be honest I love the traction of my vapors on grass fields. By far superior to any other boot I've owned.
     
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  17. David89

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    you can take them to a store with proof surely?
     
  18. 2nd_striker

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    hmmm could go to soccer scene tomorrow and try, but im sure theyll just say "email complaints" or some crap
     
  19. David89

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    they are the same company, so I dont see why not
     
  20. 2nd_striker

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    cool will give it a go tomorrow n see
     
  21. Kalouda

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    Whenever thats happened to me I've just gone to sports direct and they've sorted me out whatever I needed, probably just out of another shoe box though so someone else misses out.
     
  22. appleCORR7

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    I've never been to fussed about not getting the boot bag I have hundreds of the damn things starting from the vapor 1s!

    As for the traction of the FG boots - I like it. I thought id really be bothered by the 2 studs at the back of the boot but they've been fine. I haven't felt any extra kind of stud pressure. Not more than i would in other boots given the hard summer surface.

    appleCORR
     
  23. David89

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    Anyway, as we are talking about soles..
    they are looking into the configuration used on rodallega's boots, but looking at those black out's nike aren't sticking with blades in the long run.

    whats everyones thought on this?

    I think its just a freak accident, though i do think it was more stud then blade personally.
     
  24. 2nd_striker

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    Fergie banned players from using blades stating that they were dangerous
     
  25. yarn

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    Blades v studs: I feel like the old adidas Traxion blades and the old Nike Intertract blades were the only good bladed outsoles. Everything else never really took off in terms of player uptake.

    We're seeing a lot of hybrid stud patterns - see the new CTR, the Evospeed and the triangular 'adizero' studs on all the adidas boots. I wonder how much of this has to do with the increasing prevalence of harder (read: turf) pitches everywhere, especially in the 'emerging markets' in Asia, US, etc.

    Also: does anyone else find that new stud pattern somehow similar to the one Mizuno had on their Supersonic Waves? The 'tiger claw' studs: conical stud with bladed extensions.
     
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