Obama Failure Thread Part V

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  1. Schapes

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    If you can show me where I said I or anyy Republican said they wanted PCB in the water. I will concede your point.

    Please provide a link - that would be most helpful. Thanks again.


  2. Barbara

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    You know what? You got us. You were completely right all along and the rest of us are uninformed knuckleheads. Thank god you came along to educate us all.

    Now that you've done what you came to do, please leave.

    kthxbai
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  3. Schapes

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    If you can show me where I said I or anyy Republican said they wanted PCB in the water. I will concede your point.

    Please provide a link - that would be most helpful. Thanks again.
  4. Schapes

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    No, don't quit. Educate me. Read the Affordable Care Act and post those specific sections that prove your point.

    Try and convert me, but do it with facts.


  5. Mr. Warmth

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    Pretty much any local/state/federal GOP official that's come out against state/federal air & water quality regulations that have restricted how companies deal with their waste products, you know, from like Love Canal forward.
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  6. Schapes

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    No one really answered this question?
  7. Schapes

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    Again, which GOP local/state/federal official. A link would be better to prove your point and give it more credibility. There are a lot of GOP federal/state local officials. So it shouldn't be hard to prove if it is true what you say.
  8. Barbara

    Barbara Where is Rickon?

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    No. I am not responsible for your education and thank god for that. Here's the thing: it's impossible to education someone who (for example) doesn't understand the difference between regulating something and taking it over. Since you are stubbornly asserting that those things are the same, when they are not, I can only conclude that communicating with you is impossible.

    Communication requires some sort of shared language and son, you and I do not share the same language. Perhaps someone with more patience will take up the cause, lost though it may be.

    Furthermore I've concluded that you are in here strictly for the attention. Nothing pisses me off more than attention whores. Therefore, I will give you no more attention.

    Good luck in your future endeavors. You're going to need it.
  9. Schapes

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    Again, you must have not taken debate in school.

    I present my side with facts to support.

    You present your side with facts to support.

    I don't prove your point. You have to do that.

    If my facts are wrong. Again, please provide links that disprove them. I would be happy to read.

    Did you take debate in high school?
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    big ********ing deal. The guy in the Romney commercials who "built that company all by the sweat of his hands with no help from anyone at all" got almost twice that much in government loan guarantees. When he goes out of business will that be Obama's fault too?
    What about the many more oil businesses who took advantage of the same exact Dept of Energy policies under Bush that went under?
    Investing is a risky proposition and if the loans had all paid off in thriving start-up businesses, well, Obama would be 653 times better a venture capitalist than Romney has been (and that's what he is running on) - how many companies that Bain financed/bought failed and declared bankruptcy? More than 3? He must be the worst business-man ever.
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  11. Mr. Warmth

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    Given that one of the current GOP memes is that the EPA is killing business and jobs growth with it's diabolical and unnecessary regulations on the handling and disposal toxic substances, that's really all you need. I mean, the private sector has such an exemplary record on self-policing
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    Did the government take over the meat packing industry 100 years ago?

    Guys, let's face it, Schapes really is a bot. There's clearly no intelligence behind his posts.
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  13. Schapes

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    You may not be responsible for my education. However, you are responsible for proving your point which you have not.

    By all means feel free to post anything that proves your point and I would be happy to take into consideration.

    Look forward to your work.
  14. Schapes

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    Which GOP member. Please name names. Post a link that shows it. That will prove your point better.
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    I'm done after this, though there is a certain trainwreck fascination to dealing with someone so out of touch with reality, so willfully ignorant.

    I posted this on the last page, yet you skimmed right past it.

    PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    An inaccurate claim
    "Government takeover" conjures a European approach where the government owns the hospitals and the doctors are public employees. But the law Congress passed, parts of which have already gone into effect, relies largely on the free market:

    Employers will continue to provide health insurance to the majority of Americans through private insurance companies.

    • Contrary to the claim, more people will get private health coverage. The law sets up "exchanges" where private insurers will compete to provide coverage to people who don't have it.

    • The government will not seize control of hospitals or nationalize doctors.

    • The law does not include the public option, a government-run insurance plan that would have competed with private insurers.

    • The law gives tax credits to people who have difficulty affording insurance, so they can buy their coverage from private providers on the exchange. But here too, the approach relies on a free market with regulations, not socialized medicine.

    PolitiFact reporters have studied the 906-page bill and interviewed independent health care experts. We have concluded it is inaccurate to call the plan a government takeover because it relies largely on the existing system of health coverage provided by employers.

    It's true that the law does significantly increase government regulation of health insurers. But it is, at its heart, a system that relies on private companies and the free market.
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    You, sir, are a lying liar that lies.
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    If it truly wants to rely on the free market.

    Why not let insurance companies sell insurance across state lines?
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    Obama the community organizer can run a business? You, sir, are a "Moran". You just wrote the most dumbassed post.
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    Schapes, you really need to pace yourself. High-performing trolls realize that you can't exhaust all hope of rational dialogue with pretty much everybody in the first few days. You started off with some promise, but then you kept coming back to the table and showing your cards over and over and over again. Sit out a few rounds. Fold your cards after the first round of bidding now and then. Make us wonder--is this guy really THAT dense? Don't be in such a hurry to answer in the affirmative.
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  22. NC Soccer United

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    Dude, the interwebz is serious business. Libruls take interwebz very serious. Whatever, get a life.
  23. Schapes

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    Your San Francisco Gate article had nothing.

    The other articles did not have one Republican saluted saying they wanted dirty water or air.

    Just because they want to relax regulations for JOBS, doesn't mean that the environment will be harmed. There was no proof in Amy of those articles the environment would be harmed.
    Jay Carney said hundreds of thousands of kids with asthma their condition would be worsened. How does he know that?
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    you obviously can't even read. We already knew you can't actually think.
    But if you think something is "dumbassed", I can only possibly take it as a compliment, so Thank You miss.

    Why are the mods letting these jack-ass trolls exist again? Pure entertainment?
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    You realize, you just admitted that you're a troll, right?

    Take your advice, and either grow up and drop the disingenuous stupidity, or get the ******** out of here.
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