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  1. delael

    delael New Member

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    You are so subjective on thiss matter it's not even funny. The other day you said that every serie a coach is better then Andre.
    And you even listed some other names. Mancini, Zola, Di Matteo. Seriously? Mancini has made a mess of City this season. Tevez fiasco, then problems with Balo and Dzeko.
    There is probably a reason why Zola hasn't got the job since West Ham?
    And the last question, is Di Matteo doing a better job? Watch yesterdays final if you need an answer.
     


  2. Henchag

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    I look at the results, and see he is doing better job then AVB.Results are everything.
    From being rapted to third tier club like napoli under AVB, to eliminating the best team in the world barcelona under di matteo.Tells all what I need to know.

    Actually chelsea enjoyed there worst epl season in many under avb lol.
     
  3. DDR

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    So then by your measuring stick Avram Grant is a better coach than Mourinho. Ranieri is a better coach than Spalletti.
    Your argument is so biased, you eliminate and ignore all factors and just hone in on some trivial things and pretend you have this iron clad case.

    When the reality is you just don't like the guy and will focus on anything that will allow you to support that position.
     
  4. Henchag

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    Grant won EPL? or Mourinho with chelsea?
    Mourinho went out to winning sides in CL TOO ( liverpool, barcelona). Not third tier clubs ala napoli.

    Ranieri did no more then spalletti in europe. and Spalletti finished 2nd in serie a 3 times with us, more then ranieri.Plus Spal collected in 2007 - 2008 more points then ranieri did in 2009 - 2010.
    get facts straight
     


  5. DDR

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    Grant took over for Mourinho and went to the CL final, just the same as Di Matteo. Interestingly enough Grant like Di Matteo had no real major experience. AVB like Mourinho has already won trophies. Mourinho went on to win again, Grant disappeared. Want to wager how it plays out with AVB and Di Matteo? Also I find it amazingly funny that in this situation Napoli is a 3rd tier team, but all week long you've been going on and on about the master tactician Mazzarri. Certain adjectives for certain arguments it would seem.
     
  6. Henchag

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    You ignore important stuff.Mourinho went out to liverpool & barcelona, winners of cl . He went out in semifinals even. Unlike villas boas, and di matteo.
    The comparison is as ignorant as it gets.Napoli are CL contenders now?NO.

    AVB won no trophies in my book.Portugese league with porto counts nthg, and that mickey mouse cup ( europa league) is just played by the spanish & porutugese sides. italian/english sides ignore that miserable trophy.

    Napoli is 3rd tier club, being pushed over the top by counter attack tactics.But they reached there peak anyway, next few years will talk when they collapse under mazzarri or any other manager they hire.This is best they can get close too. And you got idiots talking there project is at "infancy", there project is at the end. They are dead club.

    Anyway, tell me. Do you think after this season AVB is still a manager teams look to employ?
     
  7. delael

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    Portugese league counts nothing? It's rated just behind serie a. Compare this season with his. Ask porto fans about that and btw there is not much difference between benfica and porto.
    EL isnt mickey mouse. Why do then most of fans here hope Roma qualifies for it?
    Also Chelse plyed quite well in Napoli.
     
  8. Henchag

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    Its not in the level of serie a.The only reason I want europa league qualification is keep high coeficients for cl return in the future, no more.

    and btw in last 10 years, porto won 8 portugese league titles. u know one of the times they were stopped it was by whom? none other then italian manager at benfica trapatoni.
     
  9. delael

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    Sorry for my last post, it was posted from my phone.
    Look EL is underappreciated, since it was renamed in 2010 it was interesting.
    Shame that money prizes are so different. UEFA are a bit hypocritical here.
    As for Andre, he's a brilliant manager. It didn't work out for him at Chelsea for some reasons, but that doesn't mean he's not good.
     
  10. shiboboo

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    All I can do is laugh. It's not even worth it any more.
     
  11. Inie8ta

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    How is this statement any more valid than than this ----> As for LE, he's a brilliant manager. It didn't work out for him at Roma this season for some reasons, but that doesn't mean he's not good.
     
  12. Moebek

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    So it is still important and not a "mickey mouse" competition as you mentioned earlier
     
  13. delael

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    Have I ever mentioned LE?
     
  14. Inie8ta

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    No you didn't. I was just trying to point out that if AVB shouldn't be judged solely by his work at Chelsea, maybe, based on that kind of reasoning, those that argue that LE deserves more time with an improved squad also have a valid argument.
     
  15. delael

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    Have I ever mentioned LE?
    Well Roma needs improved squad inspite of who is manager.
     
  16. La Magica

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    Giovinco just scored an absolute beauty. He would also be an option we should look at adding to the attack, if Juve dont want him. He would be ready to carry the burden of Totti
     
  17. Loomis

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    there was some talking about Giovinco - Borriello exchange
     
  18. La Magica

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    A man can always dream! If Juve accepted that deal, I would be extremely shocked
     
  19. Loomis

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    It would be great, but I am not sure if Juventus is ready to give up on this player for Borriello. Unless they are foolish enough to do it...
     
  20. La Magica

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    Just watched the goal again, its so so good. The strike technique is so pure and natural, what a little genius!
     
  21. Moebek

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    I doubt Juve are retarded enough to give us Giovinco for Borriello. Giovinco is out to grab match experience and when he is ready he will be back
     
  22. La Magica

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    Man City winning 1-0 away at Newcastle. Man U play Swansea later. Swansea play the style of football that United struggle against, quick short passing side that press high up the pitch. They are 18/1 to win and I will have a little wager on that price everytime.
     
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    Forza Milan! For tonight only. Hope Cagliari can draw Juve
     
  25. Ragnaroz

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    Well, it looks like Udinese are getting CL, yet again.
     
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