San Francisco Expansion Team

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by tac7713, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. tac7713

    tac7713 New Member

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    San Francisco to me is a decent sized market without an NFL team and have just won the World Series with their baseball team yes i know this. SF is a nice sized city with plenty of sports fanatics what do you guys think about a team being here or is it to close to SJ for the MLS but to me if they are trying to push this rivalry thing it would be perfect for SJ and SF


  2. Earthshaker

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    San Francisco does have an NFL team, the 49ers.
  3. tac7713

    tac7713 New Member

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    my bad meant an NBA team
  4. krudmonk

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    The Warriors play on a BART line, not 20 minutes from SF city limits. They've even worn throwback "San Francisco" uniforms the past few years.


  5. tac7713

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    lets be serious the golden state warriors take attendance from no one in the area id give tickets away to their games i know their going to get blown out my point is SF has no team besides the giants worth watching and havent for years why not bring a soccer team there SF is pretty diverse and accepting of many things sports that most parts of the US wouldnt
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    I have no opinion one way or the other & my opinion is not important on this matter anyway. But if you or a SF group have roughly 40 million dollars, a plan for a stadium not too close to San Jose's potential stadium, you'll can probably convince a good number of the 16-19 MLS team owners. Their opinion is important.
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    if the bay area was granted a second team id put in oakland or Sacramento (is sac part of the bay area?)
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    Not really, it's about two hours away from San Jose, a little less from Oakland and SF.
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    49ers are 90% leaving to SC.

    and i've heard rumors that in response to the Niners leaving, SF might try to lure the Warriors across the Bay Bridge.
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    Kezar Pub is awesome. Personally, i think it would be very sweet to see a team play at the old Kezar Stadium if it were to get fixed up a bit and expanded.
  11. Earthshaker

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    A pro soccer team did play there not that long ago (2005?), the California Victory, which averaged about 1,000 fans and lasted 1 year in the USL-1.

    And I don't think Kezar is that great a location. Hard to get to, cold, foggy nights.
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    Yes, it was the California Victory, owned by Dimitri Piterman and spanish side Alaves. They lasted only 1 season
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    No it's not. The Bay Area, anchored by SF/Oakland/SJ, is a completely seperate media market from Sacramento. I went to Sac State. It's a different metro area.

    I could see Sacramento going up to NASL somehow. They currently have an NPSL team.

    As far as the Bay Area goes, I do know there was a team one year in Oakland, in NASL I. They were called the Stompers. Juvenile name, if you ask me, but I'm aware that SJE has played at the O/AC Coliseum occasionally. Would Oakland itself make a good market, and would SJE give up rights to play there?

    Intriguing idea. No opinion one way or the other.
  14. athletics68

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    Um you obviously don't spend much time in San Francisco. The Giants, Niners and Warriors all have huge followings in the city. And to a lesser extent so do the Raiders. Even if the Niners move to SC they're just down the train line from SF and will still draw heavily from that city (and will retain the name). But the Niners are still over 500 million short in their bid to build a stadium in Santa Clara. As for the idea of a soccer team in SF, the Quakes would still have to give their blessing since currently SF as well as the rest of NorCal is the Quakes designated territory. I think you'll see several other cities get an MLS team before SF is even considered, and that assumes they find someone with the 40 million for the team and the 100 million or more to build a SSS in SF (assuming they can find the land for it). I think it's more likely you'll see the Warriors move to SF before you'll see an MLS team.

    However SF might be a good option for a D2/3 team in USL Pro (or NASL if it survives). But the big issue there is again, where do they play? Kezar pub is great, but Kezar the stadium sucks. It's cold, wet, foggy, and not the easiest place to get to. The Victory due to bad marketing aren't a great example, but they weren't exactly tearing it up at the gate regardless (though they gave us the 1906 portion of the Ultras in SJ so for that they'll always be remembered).
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    just as long as you can get to the stadium via BART (like the coliseum). the SJE should look into that. no reason why they have to stay in SJ if they cant get a stadium when there are other cities like sf and oakland.

    maybe once the a's move out. the earthquakes can move in. even though they would have to share with the raiders in the fall and i hate the lines on the field.

    in my opinion sf would rank pretty high on DP's lists of favorite cities. it seems like all DPs want to play in NY.
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    The Coliseum isn't long for this world. The Raiders and A's are both moving out after which the future for that stadium becomes very cloudy. Besides it's a pit anyway. The team already tried playing there and the fans and owners hated it. Buck Shaw was considered preferable.
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    This is about an expansion team, not the Quakes.
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    I doubt an expansion team would want to play in the Coliseum either for the same reasons the Quakes didn't.
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    You guys have to be freaking kidding of putting a team in San Francisco. The Earthquakes only drew 9,659 avg to each home game and are only 47 miles from San Francisco. If San Francisco needs a team then the MLS needs to move them from San Jose. Putting another team in the bay area would be a disaster and would lead to another team folding. Those days of the Miami Fusion and Tampa Bay getting teams only to fold within a few years are over. Again, if SF needs a team you have one 47 miles south to relocate. If anything expansion needs to be concentrated on untapped markets. I think New York could support a 2nd team (Cosmos?) or look at St Louis or Minneapolis. This idea for an expansion team is just ridiculous.
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    Ever been to Oakland? It's like a modern day version of "Fallout 3".
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    drSoFlaFan DEFEND THE FORT!

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    You do know the Quakes stadium only holds like 10,000 seats right? As a South Florida fan it bugs the hell out of me that the Quakes got saved by AEG instead of the Fusion, moved and then got their team back, but to rag on their attendance when it's near capacity at their current venue is stupid.

    I like how you say the league needs to concentrate on untapped markets and then in the very next sentence cite the need for a 2nd NY team.

    SF is a pretty big stretch with the Quakes so close nearby. I doubt that SF is even on the league's radar on the expansion/relocation front.
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    BigSoccer jack ass # 106,090,741

    Have you ever been to Oakland?

    **** outta here
  23. krudmonk

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    I'm sure he's heard about Oakland on the news and thinks he knows the place.
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    AndyMead America Uber Alles

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    The Bay Area won't get a second team until after the first one is playing in its own stadium.

    At this point, if someone can get an MLS SSS built in San Francisco, they'll get a team - but they'll be called the San Francisco Earthquakes.
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