Santos Futebol Clube, Parte IV [R]

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  1. Chicago Hawkeye

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    The Brasileiro schedule is terrible. Two games around a Fifa fixture weekend? It encourages teams to find players who aren't quite good enough to get called into their national team's camps.


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    Exactly we have to at this point me and you have been questioning him pretty heavily since the brasileirao started. Hes failed to get anything out of the bench players and I'm still not happy with the adriano/arouca pairing if Neymars out especially. Patitos pretty much been average at best I was expecting a lot more to be honest.
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    aiiii I see what you are saying but I'd rather have the calender how it is because I enjoy the games during june, july and august. However I don't think its the most conducive schedule for star and veteran players. One thing I like about this league is the young players, with a less packed schedule I think they would see less opportunities.
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    Our collective play is lacking A LOT. There is no jogadas ensaiadas, there is no movement off without the ball, there is no grit.... This team really lacks teamwork and indeed a lot of that can be credited to Muricy of course.... But I feel that the team is waaay too used to letting Neymar do all the offensive work, they are slacking off IMO, so the guilt is on the players as well.

    Our board also needs a mention, for buying players of questionable quality like Bill and João Pedro, even if we are trying to spend as little as possible by going for free/cheap transfers, the salaries of those players add up and if they don't contribute to the team they are just dead weight, wasted money every month... Wouldn't be better to buy ONE great player with a higher salary than 3 mediocre players with lower costs?


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    Latest rumours say that Inter Milan is closing in on Arouca, who got called for the Seleção to raise his price.
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    Same agent as Mano???? lol
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    No, but his agent works with Mano's....
  8. Chicago Hawkeye

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    No other league (in any sport) in the world would let its premier player miss 1/4 of the season for national team duty. It's insanely bad business, especially in a league with poor attendance (averaging under 12k/game last I saw).
    NotreDameFlamengo repped this.
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    Actually thought we looked better than we usually play without Neymar, but that might have been down to Flu being a bit off the pace.

    Bakaman I liked the part where we could have gotten Ruidiaz on a free and the club didn't want him.
  10. Muurad

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    Ganso is done man.

    Sad to see it, but it's the truth for quite some time now - we need to cut our losses and sell him for what we can right now, cause his value will just continue to decrease.
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    Santos 2-0 Flamengo. Finally a win! The game was a torture as aways. but it was fun to see Ibson getting a "chapéu" from Neymar ( :D ), plus Victor Andrade's goal and Neymar's golaço. They just had to wait untill the very last minutes, just to make us suffer.


    And it seems like Ganso will really go to São Paulo.As usual, I hope he breaks both legs in the very first game, ending his career. Also , may everything he touches rot, and failure be his lifelong partner.
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    The finish to the game made me hoarse. Such great goals too.

    On the Ganso thing, I'm just glad the saga is over. It was boring me to no end.
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    To be honest I don't have any hard feelings to Ganso.

    I think the club really did mishandle him, if it wasn't for the injury he would get his contract that frankly he deserved. For this edition of Ganso this, no one can blame the club not wanting to pay so much for. Looked like a corpse on the pitch.

    When he was at his best he was my favorite player in the world, bar none. I will always root for his type of unique players - hopefully he'll regain his form somehow in Sao Paulo - just not when he faces us.

    Felipe Anderson again showing how hot and cold he is - last 2 games he's been dreadful.

    And this is an outrage that Bruno Peres wasn't invited to the Argentina games - best rightback in the league together with Marcus Rocha, not even a contest.
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    Seems like Grêmio is not out of the Ganso race yet. It seems like DIS agrees with any of the two, but Ganso wants São Paulo and Santos wants Grêmio.


    And gotta agree with Bruno Peres. I already love him, great RB. He just needs to work on his decision making in attack... But such a technical player who is also defensively sound is a rarity. May he have a longer career at Santos than Danilo / Jonathan/ Fucile had. I wonder why he was the third option at Guarani.
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    well, Grêmio will probably be in next year Libertadores, while it seems São Paulo wont (although its true there is still a lot of championship ahead to say anything for certain).

    plus the Arena.

    the two could be attractives to Ganso AND the investors. Plus the fact that Santos doesnt want Ganso at its paulista rival.

    however, Delcir Sonda is a friend of Fabio Koff. Fabio Koff is running against Paulo Odone for the Grêmio presidency, with elections this september.

    Its hard to see Sonda putting Ganso at Grêmio BEFORE the elections, since that obviously would help Odone against Koff.


    Koff has the ample preference of Grêmio supporters, but he must reach the 2nd round of elections to get direct votes from associated supporters. To reach the 2nd round he must get at least 20% of Counsil votes.

    Maybe DIS will buy Ganso from Santos but will NOT send him anywhere until the result of the 1st round of Gremio elections. IF Koff passes the first round, its almost certain he will be the next president, due to ample support from associates, then Sonda would put Ganso at Grêmio.
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    Everyone knows the rules going in that is why no one here has made excuses for Santos. What do you want to do not have Brazilian teams focus on the libertadores or Sudamericana? I personally enjoy the state championships too but I am with the minority on that. As a Selecao fan I can live with players missing games in the Brasilerao, not that I'm happy with it. I will admit it has been a little crazy this year especially with this upcoming match with Argentina and the friendly with Sweden right after the Olympics. As you can see Selecao needs all the practice time it can get and the league calendar is to cramped to accommodate international match days. Who really cares about other sports and leagues? Its not comparable because the calendar here is completely different.
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    So we got 9 mil euro for 45% of his card?

    Brilliant piece of business to be honest considering the entire situation and his injury problems.

    I wish him the best personally. So sad to see how his career turned out looking back at how exciting it was pre-injury in the 2009-2010 season.

    Gonna have to change my avatar now I guess.
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    This is the Ganso I will always remember

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    Neymar FC with another win. It's the same script every week: play like crap and then get saved by Neymar. Muricy has to go. This isn't a team, it's a one man show, and Neymar is suffering from it. I'm actually glad he's suspended for the Portuguesa game. If only Mano wouldn't play him against Argentina.

    lawsonishere: I think our problem with the State Championships is that Muricy doesn't know the meaning of the word "rotation".
  21. Muurad

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    Neymar should seriously start thinking about getting the ******** out of Brazil for his own good.
    I said it before more lightly - but we're really damaging the kid playing him 1001 different competitions and games without any rest whatsoever.

    I feel for him, cause he has to suck it up and play no matter what and he does so in a great way - but you can see the wear and tear on the kid and as much as we joke about him being made of rubber and is somewhat of a bionic person in terms of fitness - there's just no magic in life - the huge burden he takes on his body now will just haunt him later.
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    So... click "seções", then "Caderno B":

    http://atribuna.digitalpages.com.br/reader/getReader

    A Tribuna, a very traditional newspaper from the city of Santos claims that, ever since our Libertadores elimination, our board has been doing some secret meetings with one thing in mind: to build a super team for 2013, with Robinho, Kaká and another "crack" that must be kept secret at all costs. Oh, without selling Neymar btw.












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    And well, since I like youtube videos so much and this is a triple post already (sorry! :oops: )...



    This is a very complete and interesting interview with Neymar and his family that aired today at Globo Esporte, it tells a lot about his history, some curious things that I had no idea ( he almost died when he was only 4 months old in a car accident! ).... It's in portuguese but I hope anyone that comes here can enjoy it.
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    Stat of the day: We're in the 25th round of the Brasileirao and that's only Neymar's 9th game.
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