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Serbia vs CHILE, 14 de noviembre en St.Gallen (Amistoso) [R]

Discussion in 'Chile: Selecciones Nacionales' started by JAIME CHILE, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. Gilbertsson

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    Jaime, you have found Serbian Latin presentation.
    In Croatian language this presentazion would look like this:

    Međunarodna prijateljska utakmica
    Srbija-Čile
    Srijeda, 14. studeni 2012.
    AFG Arena St. Gallen, Švicarska.
    Početak u 20.00 sati

    If we remember that Croatian language goes in 9th century and first codification of Serbian language was between 1174-1235. Everything is clear than who "robbed" the language.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_language
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_language

    Universities of Zagreb and Belgrade show similar thing.
    University of Zagreb was founded in 1669: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Zagreb
    University of Belgrade was founded in 1808: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Belgrade

    Father of Croatian grammar is Bartol Kasic, born in 1575.: he translated the Bible before 1650 year.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartol_Kašić

    Major reformer of Serbian language was born in 1787.: he was lucky that he had only one literate person in his pueblo.:D
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuk_Stefanović_Karadžić
    He translated New Testament on Serbian language in 1868. I wonder where he searched his inspiration for translation.:)

    His surname comes from Turkish language:
    Kara means Black in Turkish.
    Hadzija - is a person who achieved his fifth Islamic duty. He visited: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj

    His ancestors were probably Muslims, who converted back on Christianity. Many people returned back, because of hard duties.

    Kara+Hadzija=Karadz + ic. People with modest education never used the letter H before. It would be Karhadzic in original way. Letters "jj" were converted into letter dž.
     


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  3. Yañez

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    The ascent of Iturra in Malaga could open up a very good thing. Now we can afford to put Medel in the back 3 without losing quality (or not that much at least).

    BTW nice article Gilbertson.
     
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  4. JAIME CHILE

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    Nice memories. I was a child at that time, but my father and me attended to the matches at the Estadio Regional de Valparaíso, in this group were East Germany(with Mathias Sammer), Scotland, Colombia, and Bahrein.
    Chile had good players, like Camilo Pino(COBRELOA), Lucas Tudor, Javier Margas, Luis Musrri, Fabián Estay, Raimundo Tupper, Juan Carreño(he played in Cobreloa in 1995), Pedro González(he played in Cobreloa since 1993 until 1997), Sandro Navarrete, Héctor Cabello, etc.

    The topscorers of the World Cup were Witeczek, Suker and Camilo Pino.:)

    Serbia didn't have many players in that Yugoslav U20 NT: only the goalkeeper Dragoje Lekovic, Gordan Petric, Slavoljub Jankovic and Zoran Mijucic. I'm not sure if Milan Pavlovic was Serb or Bosnian.
    Most part of that great NT were Croats(including the coach M.Jozic) and Montenegrins.
     


  5. Gilbertsson

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    I was very young in 1987., three years. Now it's more clear why Sinisa Mihajlovic wanted Chile, because of these 25 years, he lives in past.:D Croatia will play against national league players, we don't have our normal opponent.:sleep: I never saw East Germany - DDR, only on later videos. Here are their best players:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany_national_football_team

    I know Ulf Kirsten, Dariusz Wosz, Olaf Marschall, Mathias Sammer, I heard about Thomas Doll. That's all what I could see from their players. They were good on Olympics. I was young to remember those Chilean players.:D For some surnames I have heard later: Estay, Musrri, Tudor. Davor Suker did the same on WC 1998, best goalscorer, this is not often, if footballer connects both titles in youth and senior categories. Great for Camilo Pino Pedreros, home player. He played 15 years for Cobreloa.:eek:

    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camilo_Pino_Pedreros

    How many matches did he collect? 400, 500?:D If we say 30 matches per season X 15 years, without bigger injuries.

    For Serbian nationalists Croats, Montenegrins, Slovenes, Macedonians and Bosnian and Herzegovinian do not exist, so we can say that only Serbs played on Youth World Cup 1987.:D Croats extinted in medieval times.:whistling: I wonder than, who makes them angry all the time, if only Serbs exist. They really have good arguments, forum called Serbian Nationalists and several personal blogs.:thumbsup:

    http://forum.srpskinacionalisti.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25874&start=540

    They consider this mountain as Serbian mountain: todays Sinai.:)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Serbal

    Also this Austrian mountain:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serles

    This also, because it starts with the letter S.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Säben_Abbey

    This lake in Italy is Serbian for real:
    http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lago_di_Bracciano

    Because it comes from the Latin word Sabatino. Sabatini, Saba, they are Serbs from Ancient Greece.:D So Argentine tennis player Gabriela Sabatini is also Serbian.:D

    They are also Serbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolingian_dynasty
    Because there is one Serbian folk singer Jelena Karleusa.:) So this root came from Carol. Nobody else has surname which has the root Carl, or Karl. Croats have Karlic, Karlovic for example, some other surname Carli, maybe Carlos, Karlsson, Carlsen.

    They also consider Croatian capital Zagreb as Serbinum. Even though nobody has ever connected Zagreb and Serbinum. Zagreb only existed as Andautonia and Agram. Andautonia is only that left from Roman times. Serbinum existed but in todays Northern Bosnia. Serbs lived there mostly.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbinum

    http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andautonia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agram

    You can see many other forgeries in forum from above.:) There are no limits. Everything is Serbia.:whistling: Greek mythology was amusing, but Serbian is much more. Lack of their own history brings that they conquer others.

    Zagreb has the name in Latin language Zagrabia and they think that letters ZRB are SRB, or Serbia.:sleep: I read before that Croats invented democracy: demon+croatia.:D They don't like democracy, that's why they use the word demon.:whistling: They should also include University of Sorbonne than.:D

    Surname Jankovic is a Vlach - Romanian surname, son of Iancu. Milan Pavlovic played in Sarajevo, so he is a Bosnian Serb, "son of Paul". Mirko Jozic avoided Serbs, he left Sinisa Mihajlovic (half Croat). There are many Montenegrins in Serbia, who have their roots, that hurts Serbs very much. I think that Vladimir Jugovic has Montenegrin roots, his surname means South - Jug in all languages there. Serbs pick funny folk first names and many surnames:

    Slavoljub - Person who loved glory
    Gordan - Proud or Gord in all languages.
    Zoran - Dawn - Zora.
    Dragoje - Dear - Drag.

    Beside Dragoje, Croats use first three names, same as Slovenes, Montenegrins, Bosnian Orthodox and Catholic people.

    One Croatian-Polish-Dutch-Jewish inventor has Slavoljub as his name::D
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavoljub_Eduard_Penkala

    You probably experienced his inventions.:thumbsdown: He died very young, only 50.
     
  6. JAIME CHILE

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    Wikipedia is wrong about Camilo Pino.
    He started to play in Cobreloa 1rst team in 1985. He was never starter during the late 80s, because we always had GREAT attacking midfielders: Jorge García(1986), Sergio Díaz(1987), Marcelo Trobbiani(Worls Champion in 1986, in COBRELOA in 1988 and 1989).
    In the 90s he started to play more minutes, but he wasn't constantly starter because we always got foreinger attacking midfielders, or the GREAT Juan Covarrubias (Cobreloa's all-times topscorer) played as "10" since 1990.
    So, in 1993 Camilo Pino went on loan to Coquimbo Unido.
    In 1994 he came back to Cobreloa, but the coaches put him as left back or left midfielder. Bolivian Melgar arrived after the USA World Cup to Cobreloa, so Pino was a substitute, again.
    In 1995 Cobreloa got Jaime Riveros, one of the more talented attacking midfielders in Chile in the 90s.He scored a lot of goals in the late 90s. So Pino agains was in the bench or as left back. So in 1998, Camilo left Cobreloa again.
     
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  7. JAIME CHILE

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    Serbia 0 CHILE 1:D:thumbsup: (2011)
     
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    http://redgol.cl/2012/10/borghi-entrego-nomina-internacional-para-a/
    Nómina de jugadores de clubes extranjeros para el amistoso con Serbia en Suiza:

    Claudio Bravo (Real Sociedad, España)
    Miguel Pinto (Atlas, México)

    Pablo Contreras (Olympiacos, Grecia)
    Gonzalo Jara (West Brom, Inglaterra)
    Marcos González (Flamengo, Brasil)

    Arturo Vidal (Juventus, Italia)
    Gary Medel (Sevilla, España)
    Marcelo Díaz (Basilea, Suiza)
    Manuel Iturra (Málaga, España)
    Felipe Seymour (Génoa, Italia)
    Jean Beausejour (Wigan, Inglaterra)
    Mark González (CSKA, Rusia)
    Matías Fernández (Fiorentina, Italia)
    Felipe Gutiérrez (Twente, Holanda)

    Humberto Suazo (Monterrey, México)
    Alexis Sánchez (Barcelona, España)
    Sebastián Pinto (Bursaspor, Turquía)
    Eduardo Vargas (Napoli, Italia)

    D.T. Claudio Borghi(Arg).
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    ¿Por qué no nominó a Mauricio Isla(Juventus/ITA)?:eek:
    Sigue ignorando a Esteban Paredes(Atlante/MÉJ) y no nominó a Ángelo Henríquez(Manchester Utd./ING).:mad:
     
  9. SIN DIOS NI LEY

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    Y ahora que Isla si bien no es titular, está jugando partidos, muestra mejor nivel. Jajaja, mejor me río, es mucho más sano.

    Cada vez me entusiasma menos la selección, se perdió la oportunidad de reencantar a la gente, jugadores, con sólo cambiar a Borghi.
     
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    "La Raja" con la elección de los arqueros.

    Uno que vuelve tras estar fracturado y el otro, lisa y llanamente fracturado. Al cabeza de mula, le gusta mucho el olor a "hospital".
    :rolleyes:
     
  11. Gilbertsson

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    Where did they played this match Jaime?:D Chilean players entered in good clubs.:thumbsup:
     
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    Why the hell did he leave out Isla? Isla, Vidal, Medel are our best mid fielders, wtf!?!?
     
  13. Gilbertsson

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    Medel scored against Zaragoza last weekend. Maybe he is back in shape.
     
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    Yeah what the hell on Isla...
     
  15. JAIME CHILE

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    I guess that in Serbia (or somewhere in Europe), because that vid was uploaded to youtube on september 14th (2011), summer in Europe.
    In Chile nobody plays baby-football in september without t-shirts, well, maybe some people, but that's normal in summer (january-february).

    Isla insulted the 4th referee in the friendly against Spain (August 2011), so the referee informed that, but Isla never was suspended for those insults, until now.
     
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    http://www.cooperativa.cl/noticias/...el-amistoso-con-serbia/2012-11-05/175650.html
    Selección chilena para el amistoso con Serbia:

    Arqueros
    Claudio Bravo (Real Sociedad, España)
    Miguel Pinto (Atlas, México)
    Cristopher Toselli (Universidad Católica)

    Defensas
    Enzo Andía (Universidad Católica)
    José Rojas (Universidad de Chile)
    Osvaldo González (Universidad de Chile)
    Gonzalo Jara (West Bromwich, Inglaterra)
    Marcos González (Flamengo, Brasil)

    Volantes
    Yerson Opazo (O'Higgins)
    Charles Aránguiz (Universidad de Chile)
    Arturo Vidal (Juventus, Italia)
    Gary Medel (Sevilla, España)
    Marcelo Díaz (Basilea, Suiza)
    Manuel Iturra (Málaga, España)
    Felipe Seymour (Genoa, Italia)
    Jean Beausejour (Wigan, Inglaterra)
    Mark González (CSKA, Rusia)
    Matías Fernández (Fiorentina, Italia)
    Felipe Gutiérrez (FC Twente, Holanda)

    Delanteros
    Humberto Suazo (Monterrey, México)
    Alexis Sánchez (FC Barcelona, España)
    Sebastián Pinto (Bursaspor, Turquía)
    Eduardo Vargas (Napoli, Italia).

    D.T. Claudio Borghi(Arg).
     
  17. JAIME CHILE

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    http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.2...ozive-za-mec-sa-Cileom-Samo-u-spicu-debitanti
    Selección serbia:

    Arqueros:
    Željko Brkić (Udinese/ITA)
    Damir Kahriman (Tavrija/UCR)
    Branimir Aleksić (Spartak ZV)

    Defensas:
    Branislav Ivanović (Chelsea/ING)
    Aleksandar Kolarov (Manchester City/ING)
    Neven Subotić (Borussia Dortmund/ALE)
    Matija Nastasić (Manchester City/ING)
    Marko Lomić (Dinamo Moskva/RUS)
    Antonio Rukavina (Real Valladolid/ESP)
    Nikola Maksimović (Crvena Zvezda)
    Nenad Tomović (Fiorentina/ITA)

    Mediocampistas:Radosav Petrović (Genclerbirligi/TUR)
    Nemanja Matić (Benfica/POR)
    Ljubomir Fejsa (Olimpiakos/GRE)
    Aleksandar Ignjovski (Werder Bremen/ALE)
    Srđan Mijailović (Crvena Zvezda)
    Ivan Radovanović (Atalanta/ITA)

    Delanteros:Alen Stevanović (Torino/ITA)
    Filip Đuričić (Heerenven/HOL)
    Marko Šćepović (Partizan)
    Lazar Marković (Partizan)
    Nikola Đurđić (Helsingborg/SUE)
    Filip Đorđević (Nantes/FRA)

    D.T: Sinisa Mihajlović.
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    Mihajlovic no llamó a algunos titulares como Bisevac, Tadic y Tosic:eek: ni tampoco llamó a alternativas como Sulejmani y Lekic.
     
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    Mihajlovic changed some things. He invited Croat Antonio Rukavina.:whistling: Serbs don't celebrate St. Anthony and his surname is from region Lika, or Dalmatia, for example Ante Rukavina. He also invited one Romani player, Damir Kahriman. Nemanja Matic also has Croatian origins, his surname says this: "son of Matej, or Mateo", maybe Nenad Tomovic (son of Tomo, Tomislav - first Croatian king). They have several Vlach players, my speculations are: Aleksic, Nastasic, Maksimovic, Mijailovic (same as Mihajlovic, only they left the letter H, it was harder to say), Radovanovic, Markovic, Mihajlovic. I am sure about Nastasic, Maksimovic, Radovanovic, Markovic. Aleksandar Ignjovski is Macedonian I think, Ljubomir Fejsa (Czech, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian, not sure).

    There are few very famous Vlach footballers: Gheorghe Hagi, Ilija Najdovski..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aromanians

    There are many Vlach settlements in Serbia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_settlements_in_Serbia_inhabited_by_Vlachs

    Many of them don't reveal this origin, they have accepted other nations, but their surnames reveal non-Slavic roots.

    Footballers of Romani heritage are even more famous: Aljosa Asanovic (in original way Hasanovic, Bosnian Muslim surname, I didn't knew about this before, but it's non-Croatian surname), Andre-Pierre Gignac, Dani Guiza, Jesus Navas, Banel Nicolita, Christos Patsatzoglou (Turkish surname), Ricardo Quaresma, Jose Antonio Reyes, Tony Vairelles, Rafael van der Vaart, they left out here Drazen Ladic, Croatian goalkeeper, close to Hungarian border. We could create great team here, for every position (MF, attackers).:)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romani_people

    Bisevac is not invited, because everyone used critical attitude against him, they consider him very weak against Belgium. I don't consider that he is so bad, but media plays huge role here, he is guilty for everything, because of this defeat against Belgium.:thumbsdown: Others played excellent than.:D

    Miralem Sulejmani is a Gorani ethnic group, ex-Christian, his ancestors were converted on Muslim faith during Ottoman Empire. Gorani are Slavic people, so they are not Albanians, maybe Serbs, Montenegrins, Macedonians, or even Croats.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Serbia

    Adem Ljajic doesn't accept Serbian anthem as his anthem, he must sing or leave. He is Bosnian Muslim, todays Sandzak region in Serbia. Back than Bosnia and Herzegovina was much bigger, it went in todays Serbia, Montenegro (Old Herzegovina region) and Croatia.

    Sinisa Mihajlovic is unwanted person among the fans, he said recently: "It's normal that I consider Croatia as my homeland also, my mother is from Croatia, I was born in Croatia. I am Serb, but I appreciate everybody, in my home we celebrated Catholic and Orthodox Christmas. In my home there were always strangers and different nations, different religions. I wouldn't take any of Croatian players in my team, my players are the best".

    Serbian website: http://www.telegraf.rs/sport/403392-mihajlovic-i-hrvatska-mi-je-domovina

    Silly words, during the war he talked against Croatia, Croats, another disturbed interview. If he accepts all nations and religions, why did he kicked Adem Ljajic from the team.:D Nobody takes his words as serious, he changes his opinion all the time.:thumbsup:

    One of comments are: "Coach Croats than, he should end with this emotional interviews, this is football, it's not important from where people come".

    This one says in Cyrillic letter: "МИ СЕ СРБИ “” ЗАХВАЉУЈЕМО”" НА ТВОЈИМ “”" ДЕЛИМА”" КОЈЕ СИ ЗА СРПСКЕ ОРЛОВЕ “” УРАДИО”" ЗАТО ИДИ ИЗ СРБИЈЕ ШТО ПРЕ И НИКАД СЕ НЕ ВРАТИО, НАЈБОЉЕ У ТВОЈУ ДРУГУ “” ЛИЈЕПУ ЊИХОВУ”" ДОСТА НАМ ЈЕ ТВОЈИХ САДАШЊИХ УЧИНАКА"

    When we put this in Google Translator, we get this: "WE ARE INI "" Thanks "" on your "" "we," "you've FOR SERBIAN Eagles" "DO" "WHY GO FOR SERBIAN asap and never returned, the best for your companion "" beautiful "" their ENOUGH IS OUR PRESENT YOUR IMPACT.

    Very disturbed fan, hard to understand his mind.:D Beautiful their - he thinks here that he should leave in Croatia, because Croatian anthem is: "Our Beautiful Homeland", so they say often "Their Beautiful". This fan doesn't consider Croatia as a beautiful country, because of "beautiful".

    Cyrillic letter was created in First Bulgarian Empire, 10th century: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_script

    Serbs today use Bulgarian Cyrillic letter with Croatian Latin version, if we observe chronology, but they don't like chronology, they consider later centuries as early centuries.:D

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_language

    Sava made first codification of Serbian language probably in 13th century. 13th century was before 10th century.:thumbsup:
     
  19. Yañez

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    Don´t know what´s the big deal for calling zero players from colo colo.
     
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    Carlos Munoz should have gotten a call up for being the top goalscorer in Chile. Apparently, everyone else on the forwards list forgot how to get the ball into the net.
     
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    There is no big deal. Being in disagreement with a call up is fine, but many are taking the opportunity to file ridiculous criticism at Borghi and question him in ways that go way beyond 'lo futbolistico'........

    the guys that are saying he didn't call any colo colo players to favour 'his' team in the playoffs are the same guys that used to criticize him for only calling guys from 'his team', or that would be crying foul about undeserving colo colo players getting a call up (probably because they have the same management as Borghi, no doubt)....

    A lot of people threw their hands up in the air when they heard about guys like Vilches, Flores, and Ormeno maybe getting a call up, and now they say that they weren't called up only so that Colo Colo could be favoured in the tournament...... its nothing but excessive engativity and a lack of consistency.


    In any event, the only guy from Colo Colo tht might actually deserve a callup would be Munoz....but he has been on the team before and never really convinced teh dt.... i don't mind his absence considering that its clear Alexis, Suazo, Puinto, Vargas, Junior and Pinilla are teh guys Borghi has put his faith in. Would love to se Paredes get his chance, but at this stage the team has to be 90% complete
     
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    Maybe the player representative, who also is linked to the "fat mule head Borghi", .... Mr. Felicevich ......., has something to say about the issue........ :rolleyes:

    Lately, some reporters and specially from Terra-tv, have noted that most players called up regularly by the mule head, are among those represented by him, whom (Felicevich) also has had the opportunity to sit with the NT staff in some games, even wearing the official uniform as well, as if he were also part of the staff, which he isn`t, btw. Curiously, those players which are not represented by Felicevich, don`t get much NT call ups, and specially concerning those that were punished (only those who were punished and afterwards included in the team, were all under Felicevich's representation). :eek:

    Among those reporters is Bonvallet, whom suggests that this may be the reason of such strange insistence by the mule head (suggesting that he also might get some sort of extra comission, as well, with his association to the guy) , on calling the same guys over and over, despite having other players available, even if they appear to be better or more promising, than the ones called up.

    Strange issue, and definitively odd.:confused:
     
  23. JAIME CHILE

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    BAJAS hasta ahora:
    Johnny Herrera (no considerado por Borghi)
    Pablo Contreras (lesionado)
    Marco Estrada (no considerado por Borghi)
    Mauricio Isla (sancionado)
    Jorge Valdivia (no considerado por Borghi)
    Cristóbal Jorquera (desgarrado)
    Mark González (operado tras un golpe en un entrenamiento en su club)
    Esteban Paredes (no considerado por Borghi)
    Fabián Orellana (no considerado por Borghi)
    Antenor "Junior" Fernándes (no considerado por Borghi)
    Humberto Suazo (desgarrado)
    Sebastián Pinto (lesionado en un aductor)

    El parrillero nominó al viñamarino Eugenio Mena(Univ.de Chile) y al porteño Carlos Muñoz(Colocolo).
    Ángelo Henríquez(Manchester Utd./ING) podría ser nominado también.
     
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    Recién se confirmó la nominación de Ángelo Henríquez.:thumbsup:
     
  25. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member

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    Country:
    Croatia
    Weather in St. Gallen: http://www.accuweather.com/en/ch/st-gallen/314638/weather-forecast/314638

    Summer returned back in Europe.:thumbsup:

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    During weekend rain will come back.:unsure: Zurich and Geneve have 10, 11*C, in St. Gallen should be similar.​
    St. Gallen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Gallen

    Switzerland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland

    Swiss Chilean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Chilean

    "St. Gallen is notable for reporting the highest maximum radioactivity measurements of any Swiss city, as published in the 2009 yearly report by BAG (Bundesamt für Gesundheit), the Swiss Federal Health Office.":eek::oops:

    St. Gallen is close to the German lake Bodensee.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Constance

    This is popular place for weekend trips.:) City of Freiburg is close:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiburg_im_Breisgau

    Several cities outside of Switzerland are close to St. Gallen.:thumbsup:
     

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