Should only sovereign nations be allowed to be FIFA members? (Update: Kosovo & Gibraltar join FIFA)

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  1. Nico Limmat

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    Possibly more contentiously - so does Crimea!

    http://tass.ru/en/sport/873804

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    Crimea won't get through. The big FAs from Western countries won't recognize what's seen as a legitimate state. Kosovo gets through due to Western Europe recognizing it, Gibraltar has British backing.
     


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    I read an article mentioning the Isle of Man considering applying also.
     
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    Last friday 25th november, FIFA held a brainstorming between 6 CONCACAF members (Guadeloupe, Martinique, Franch Guyana, Saint Martin, Sint Maarten and Bonaire) and French and Netherlands Football Federations. It was a matter of discussing a special statute for those 6 CONCACAF members. Immediately France put a kind of veto saying that its colonies (Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guyana and Saint Martin) won't be able to compete in FIFA. They could funding and training in FIFA but not competitions! I didn't know FIFA was the UN (lol)! In all cases, the final decision will belong to FIFA! Response to the first half of 2017!
     
  7. Nico Limmat

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    Got a link?
     
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    FIFA may have the final say, but I don't think it will get to FIFA unless France agrees. France is a bit inconsistent as they do allow Tahiti and New Caledonia to compete as full FIFA members.
     


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    are not USA and Mexico happy with this? image voting versus 30 funny teams that are not nation just european military base in the caribbean.
     
  10. It's called FOOTBALL

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    Good thread, I am vehemently opposed to only letting sovereign nations have teams. If one country conquers another, then the conquered nation loses a team. That is 100% wrong.

    Black players should be able to represent their own team as an alternative to the usnt if they want. Same with native American players, they should have their own team like in Lacrosse. The native people were conquered, so because reservations don't have full sovereignty, they can't play in WCQ unless the u.s. caps them. That is totally wrong. We all know the u.s. will never let reservations be sovereign nations. But FIFA shouldn't wait, give them their own team NOW. And an African-American team. Any movements for black sovereignty have been crushed by the CIA. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have their own team.

    Shame on FIFA and the International Olympic Committee for rewarding war, conquest and oppression. Let oppressed groups have their own teams, the fight for sovereignty requires bloodshed, which is too dangerous. FIFA and the IOC shouldn't penalize them for being peaceful.
     
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    I think it is well established that if there is enough global support for the admission of a territory then FIFA won't stop it. Case in point Palestine. FIFA attempts to be politically neutral as much as possible and that makes perfect sense for a global governing body. The concept of representative teams drawn along ethnic lines I find highly problematic and is not in any shape or form compatible with FIFA's territorial approach of top-down governance.

    I don't want this thread to be dragged into a politically charged debate. We have other forums to discuss "black lives matter". Political debates are just a click away.
     
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    Interesting. Despite only being a CAF associate member Réunion gets to enter a team in the CAF Champions League (SS Saint-Louisienne).
     
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    CONCACAF lets Associate Members enter the CFU Club Championship, which is qualifying for the CONCACAF Champions League. Only 8 out of 31 eligible countries (including FIFA members and CONCACAF Associate Members that aren't independent) entered clubs in 2016. Guadeloupe was the only Associate Member to enter clubs.
     
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    Absolutely
     
  15. It's called FOOTBALL

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    Why, there are ethnic and cultural groups that would like to field a football team without having to fight for sovereignty first.
     
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    Why stop at African-American and Native American teams.

    Why not have, as well.....
    US-All Italian team
    US-All Greek team
    US-All Polish team, etc

    (true, the above are all immigrants, not conquered peoples, but still...)

    Spain- All Basque team
    Spain-All Catalan team
    Spain-All Galician team
    Spain- All Castilian team, etc

    (top 3 conquered by the Castilians)

    China alone has some 56 recognized ethnic groups (who were conquered by the majority Han), not to mention some 297 different living languages.....

    India has some 1700 languages....and over 2,000 ethnic groups.....


    Maybe the Native-Americans wouln't all want to play for one "Indian" team.....so, there could be an All Lakota team, an All Cheyenne team, etc

    The possibilities for new football teams are endless...
     
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