Supporters' Shield.....

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  1. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

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    San Jose is leading the league with 47pts.....


    Code:
    1.Kansas City          26
    2.New York             24
    3.Chicago              24
    4.DC United            23
    5.Seattle              23
    6.Houston              21
    7.Columbus             19
    8.Real Salt Lake       19
    9.CD Chivas            16
    10.Los Angeles         14
    11.Vancoover           14
    12.Phialdelphia        13
    13.Montreal            10
    14.FC Dallas            6
    15.Colorado             6
    16.New England          6
    17.Portland             4
    18.Toronto              3
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  2. Q*bert Jones III

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  3. vividox

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    TFC are already mathematically eliminated. KC (46 points) and New York (44 points) still play each other 3 times. There is no possible way for them to play each other three times and one of them not to have more than 47 points - ergo, it's impossible for TFC to win the Supporters Shield with any combination of results from now until the end of the season.
  4. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

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    You're probably right. These kinds of useless calculations make my nostrils hurt. But, just to be an insufferable dick, if TFC won their remaining 9 games they'd end up with 47 points, tied with either of them or SJ.


  5. ceezmad

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    Nope.

    3 more games for KC and NYC

    KC wins all 3 and lose every other game, they have 55 points.

    KC and NY draw all 3 games, and lose every other game, KC 49 points, NY 47 points.

    KC and NY Draw 2 and NY wins 1; KC 48 points NY 49 points.

    KC and NY Draw 1 and NY wins 2; KC 47 points NY 51 points.

    Toronto already lost the S.S. to one of them as vividox pointed out.
  6. EvanJ

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    I don't like that two clubs can play three times with all of them in the last 9 of 34 games.
  7. vividox

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    By "more than 47", I meant "more than 47", not "47 or more". [/pedantic semantics] Right now, it is impossible for a Supporter Shield winner to win the shield with anything less than 49 points. So any team that can't hit 49 is out of the SS race. Portland will be knocked out this weekend if KC wins, NY wins and Portland draws, SJ wins and Portland draws, or if Portland loses.
  8. henryo

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  9. vividox

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    Portland still hanging on by a thread - they can finish with 51.
    Colorado and New England still hanging on by an even smaller thread - they can finish with 50 and theoretically overcome the goals scored tiebreaker.
  10. henryo

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    By the way, just crurious:

    1. Are there pictures with the engravings for the 2011 win by L.A.?
    (as well as those for the 1996-2000 winners)

    2. Base on the engravings space remaining, the trophy should last for another 14 years? :)
    (given that 15 seasons of engravings have occupied about 50% of the base plate space...)
  11. bunge

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    We can always add another ring, like the Stanley Cup.
  12. henryo

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    Good idea, building one base layer after another to expand the trophy... :)

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  13. newtex

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    FCD is also hanging on that thread. Their Max is also 50 pts since they only have 6 games left.

    Looks to me like all these teams could be eliminated from the SS race this week:

    New England
    Portland
    Philadelphia
    Colorado
    Dallas
  14. firefan2001

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    San Jose is leading the league with 50pts.

    Code:
    1.Kansas City          21
    2.Seattle              20
    3.New York             19
    4.Chicago              18
    5.DC United            17
    6.Houston              16
    7.Columbus             16
    8.Real Salt Lake       14
    9.Los Angeles          11
    10.CD Chivas           10
    11.Vancoover            8
    12.Phialdelphia         8
    13.Montreal             7
    14.Portland             1
    15.FC Dallas            0
    16.Colorado             0
    17.New England          0
    18.Toronto            Eliminated
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  15. henryo

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    New England is now elimiated from the SS race, following the 3-3 tie with Chivas USA on Aug-29.
  16. firefan2001

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    I update it at the end of the week, not after every game.....
  17. henryo

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    No issues, the comment was just a mid-week follow-up base the neat table you've put-up after every weekend...

    Keep up the good work!
  18. henryo

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    All these teams (other than Philadelphia) are mathematically out this week, while Philadelphia and Montreal will be eliminated once S.J. earn another 1 and 2 more points, respectively.

    Chivas and Vancouver are hanging by a thread as well (just 3 more points for S.J. will do)...
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    San Jose is leading the leauge with 53pts.

    Code:
    1.Kansas City          18
    2.Seattle              15
    3.Chicago              15
    4.New York             14
    5.Columbus             13
    6.Real Salt Lake       11
    7.Houston              10
    8.DC United             9
    9.Los Angeles           8
    10.CD Chivas            2
    11.Vancoover            2
    12.Montreal             1
    13.Phialdelphia         0
    14.Portland             Eliminated (Week #26)
    15.FC Dallas            Eliminated (Week #26)
    16.Colorado             Eliminated (Week #26)
    17.New England          Eliminated (Week #26)
    18.Toronto              Eliminated (Week #25)
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  21. henryo

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    With the smaller number of games in Week #27, the only "new" team that will join the elimination list this week would be Chivas USA.
    • Wednesday, September 5, 2012
      New England - Columbus
      Colorado - Portland
    • Thursday, September 6, 2012
      Houston - Real Salt Lake
    • Saturday, September 8, 2012
      Seattle - Chivas USA
    The other teams on the brink shall remain in the mix, until Week #28:
    • 11.Vancouver 2
    • 12.Montreal 1
    • 13.Philadelphia 0
  22. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

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    San Jose is leading the leauge with 53pts.

    Code:
    1.Kansas City          18
    2.Seattle              15
    3.Chicago              15
    4.New York             14
    5.Columbus             10
    6.Houston              10
    7.DC United             9
    8.Real Salt Lake        8
    9.Los Angeles           8
    10.Vancoover            2
    11.Montreal             1
    12.Phialdelphia         0
    13.CD Chivas            Eliminated (Week #27)
    14.Portland             Eliminated (Week #26)
    15.FC Dallas            Eliminated (Week #26)
    16.Colorado             Eliminated (Week #26)
    17.New England          Eliminated (Week #26)
    18.Toronto              Eliminated (Week #25)
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  23. henryo

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    A win by S.J. over Chivas this week shall eliminate the three teams below, regardless of what happen in their respective matches:
  24. firefan2001

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    San Jose is leading the league with 56pts

    Code:
    1.Kansas City          13
    2.Chicago              12
    3.New York             11
    4.Seattle              10
    5.DC United             6
    6.Houston               5
    7.Real Salt Lake        5
    8.Los Angeles           5
    9.Columbus              4
    10.Vancoover            Eliminated (Week #28)
    11.Montreal             Eliminated (Week #28)
    12.Phialdelphia         Eliminated (Week #28)
    13.CD Chivas            Eliminated (Week #27)
    14.Portland             Eliminated (Week #26)
    15.FC Dallas            Eliminated (Week #26)
    16.Colorado             Eliminated (Week #26)
    17.New England          Eliminated (Week #26)
    18.Toronto              Eliminated (Week #25)
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  25. henryo

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    In Week #28, the season has moved past the fifth-sixth milestone (83.33%).

    In Week #29, should San Jose win again, the following teams will be eliminated, if they lose their respective games. (For Columbus, anything less than a win will rule them out...)

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