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Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by Numquam Moribimur, Apr 14, 2012.

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  1. guignol

    guignol Moderator Staff Member

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    numbered seating can be de jure instituted and de facto ignored. that's how it's done in the kop virage nord at gerland. doe eens normaal et blijf toch gek!
     


  2. guignol

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    i think the fight against "modern football" should encompass more than just the treatment of ultras, but here's an article about that:

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    despite good behavior the last three matches saint-├ętienne's biggest supporter groups have been banned from the stadium for the rest of the year following use of smoke, flares, and unfortunately one firecracker thrown on the field during the last derby (directly at a certain player to make matters worse). les verts have already been handed two closed door matches for other monkeyshines this season, so this latest decision was taken so as not to punish the other fans. but i still think it's a raw deal.
     
  3. Numquam Moribimur

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwD3lnhV-k8"]Balls protest against the TV addicts to Barcelona and Real Madrid - YouTube[/ame]


    quality from Sevilla FC:cool:
     


  5. Schapes

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    fans? you call those fans? barca needed to score one goal to make the final, but they just stood around the chelsea area like 10 guys waiting for a bus... and their "fans" just sat on their hands and thought it was perfectly OK.

    we've had madrid and barca fans in town here plenty, and it's always the same thing: no more enthusiasm than a frigging dentist convention. the word pathetic doesn't come close.
     
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    Why don`t you start focusing on your own opinions since you clearly do not have the ability to understand others .

    Class there from Sevilla FC.
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    Same thing was done by Basel in November 2010. Can`t remeber you calling it classy then Schapes ?

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    Let me quote a friend of mine for you Schapes.


    In the dark of the room the light is weak .But if everyone stand together with their own light, then the color will re emerge!!!!!
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jft7WPzQQjs"]Lang leben die Ultras - Ultras in Deutschland - YouTube[/ame]

    AHU :cool:
     
  10. Schapes

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    Classless by both sets of fans. There is never an acceptable reason for fans to throw objects on a field of play and disrupt a game. All fans that were caught doing so should have been ejected.
     
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    freedom for supporters

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585URl8k93o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585URl8k93o[/ame]

    And a little treat for Shapes from EPL.
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  13. Schapes

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    I think the Turn off your television, turn on your passion is easy to say when you live in Europe.

    Here the CLOSEST MLS team is 4 hours away by car.

    Europe is a plane ride away (7 hours). As I have been saying all along, for fans in the States - television has been exceptional.

    I remember getting Soccer America which was two weeks behind European games. Then along came the Internet. Could read about games. Now I get 7-8 games a weekend.

    All World Cup games, will get all of the Euros. All World Cup qualifiers for the US live.
    It wasn't always that way.
     
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    The home team in those cases should have been required to forfeit the match. Maybe that would have taught the fans a lesson about appropriate behavior.
     
  15. Numquam Moribimur

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    really ???? :D for tennis balls ?
     
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    i would think they realize that and this is aimed at people who do have a choice. and the problem is the same in europe; a lot of people who could go watch fortuna, huddersfield or tours for real instead choose to support barcenal or real united for fake.

    i remember when the only soccer on TV was a weekly bundesliga or first division match on PBS, and though it was always a week or two old there was no spoiler problem since there was no news anywhere about it (even if you lived in a big city foreign newspapers were a few days old at best too).
     
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    I agree. There is no situation where that behavior is appropriate. Unless you can come up with one.

    Maybe a game behind closed doors would also help with losing three points.
     
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    Well it comes down to personal choice doesn't it. Anyone has the right to support whatever team they want. Which is why television helps them do that. Clubs like Fortunata Dusseldorf and Huddersfield need to solve a need (fans wanting to watch football) and offer a solution (play a good brand/style of football ) to fill that need.

    That is what businesses do. Uncover needs and offer solutions for their customers.[/quote]
     
  20. Numquam Moribimur

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    pay up ...shit down and shut up. is the way you have it right ?
     
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    Absolutely not. Stand up cheer, boo, wave your arms. That is fine. Just because you are a fan you never have the right to throw ANYTHING on the pitch at any time. People don't like tv changing game times. How is disrupting a game by throwing tennis balls any different?
     
  22. Numquam Moribimur

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    mental that :D:D
     
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    I think you've kind of missed the whole point of what protesting is about. It was meant to be disruptive.

    I mean, do you really think it's fine to make a match start at nearly 11 pm so they can show a Real Madrid press conference.

    You can come back with your "if you don't like it, don't buy a ticket" line if you wish, but that's hard to apply for season ticket holders who don't have that choice.
     
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    That isn't how it works. Fans don't decide who to watch each weekend by thinking who plays the nicest football. Fans decide to watch their team, or stay at home. That's it. They don't think "well I support west ham, but I don't like the football under Sam Allardyce, so I think I'll watch Arsenal this week instead." They don't - except for a few also into non-league football - go and watch another local game if their team isn't at home.
     
  25. guignol

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    businesses? solutions for customers? if this is really how you view sports, and supporting a team, we clearly have nothing to discuss.
     
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