1. Save 40-80% on great soccer jerseys. Shop today at BigSoccer Shop!

US-Honduras, the coaching and the subs (R)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by superdave, Feb 6, 2013.

Moderators: dark knight
  1. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Location:
    New York
    I was saying this the whole time during the game.
     
    Editor In Chimp repped this.


  2. tristan2000

    tristan2000 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2013
    Id like to nominate bruce areana now! he is a better judge of players.
     
  3. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2004
    Location:
    Albany, NY
    Club:
    --other--
    We give up a lot of late goals since JK started coaching this team.
     
    SPA2TACU5 and deuteronomy repped this.
  4. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2005
    Location:
    BC
    Country:
    United States
    Klinsmann didn't manage the team within the variables of weather and travel. I would say he was a bit naive. He took big chances in his line-up and then again by doing three subs before 70 min. He is like someone who is gambling with money other than their own. Go big and if you fail, so what? If you win, glory is yours.

    Just a lack of leadership in that line-up. Bradley tried but he was having big enough problems just trying to play his game.
     


  5. mannycoon

    mannycoon Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    I just don't think the way Klinsmann wants to play plays to the strength of our team and it forces him to try to jam players into roles where they don't quite fit.

    Also him not trying out new CBs and getting them comfortable playing together until the very last minute was a really poor decision on his part. He should have been working more CBs into the lineup the day he took over, so we wouldn't have guys going out there in a hex game with very little experience.
     
  6. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2006
    Location:
    Boston/Providence
    We need to find a formation that works and stick with it.

    It doesn't seem like these players are getting any more comfortable with the various systems we've employed.
     
    Konut repped this.
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    Joined:
    May 25, 1999
    Club:
    DC United

    OK. Why not? I mean, isn't it the coach's job to get the players performing at (or above!) their potential?

    I don't know whether it's the fault of the coach or just a general (lack of) character among the players. Or both. In fact, maybe both is most likely.

    But it sure seems like this has been the story of this team for a while now. And I'm sick of it. Klinsmann's main job right now is to fix this. If he can't ...
     
  8. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2005
    Location:
    New York
    Klinsi might or might not yet prove to be a good coach for us in the end, but if it goes south, I expect that Klinsi would be a nightmare of an ex-coach for us. I expect him to throw the entire pool and program under the bus to anybody in Europe who will sit still long enough to listen.

    One thing I can say is that this team seems to lack a bit of fight. And that's one thing we never lacked under Bradley. Or Arena, for the most part. Or even Sampson, until the WC when he changed everything (and the whole Harkes kerfluffle). Or Bora...
     
    Dignan repped this.
  9. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Location:
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Country:
    American Samoa
    Didn't he trade you to CUSA though? How can you support that guy?

    Grumpy in LA will like this post.

    :D
     
  10. DIMITAR BERBATOV!

    DIMITAR BERBATOV! Member+

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country:
    United States
    He wasn't exactly considered a smashing success at Bayern and Germany, so I don't think it would matter much. And if he fails to bring the USA to the World Cup, it will be a big blow to his reputation.
     
  11. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Location:
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Country:
    American Samoa
    Lol, as in, he'd be coaching somewhere in Vanuatu.
     
  12. Tony in Quakeland

    Tony in Quakeland Member+

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2003
    Location:
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Country:
    United States
    I would take Bradley back in a heartbeat. Players would know EXACTLY what was expected of them, and if they were not clear they would be told, face to face, man to man. Same with Arena. Or Kinnear. Or Sigi.

    Klinsmann has shown nothing as a head coach for us. There is no reason for patience - it is abundantly clear that he is the wrong man for the job
     
    Fanatical Monk repped this.
  13. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively Let us soccer

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Location:
    Little Rock
    Country:
    United States
    Can't sub out all 7 gassed players...
     
  14. xsosx

    xsosx Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Country:
    United States
    299303813347700736]/media] is not a valid tweet id
     
    deuteronomy repped this.
  15. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2005
    Location:
    BC
    Country:
    United States
    It would have been absolutely amazing if the players played up to their potential given so many going from winter in Europe to 90 deg with high humidity. Add onto that the travel across 4 times zones and playing in hostile environment, you would think that Klinsmann would have built into his game plan contingencies that the players would most likely NOT play up to their potential. If he was expecting business as usual, then that is very wishful thinking.
     
  16. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2005
    Location:
    BC
    Country:
    United States
    It would have been absolutely amazing if the players played up to their potential given so many going from winter in Europe to 90 deg with high humidity. Add onto that the travel across 4 times zones and playing in hostile environment, you would think that Klinsmann would have built into his game plan contingencies that the players would most likely NOT play up to their potential. If he was expecting business as usual, then that is very wishful thinking.
     
  17. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
    Location:
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    For all that wanted Jozy to start and play a whole game... you got it.

    For all of those that wanted to replace the 'over the hill Boca'... you got it with Gonzo.

    For those that wanted to see Kljestan given signifigant minutes, you got it (in for EJ).
     
    Konut repped this.
  18. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2007
    Location:
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Country:
    United States
    In the second tier.
     
    ImaPuppy repped this.
  19. Grogtank

    Grogtank Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Location:
    Vegas Baby
    Country:
    United States
    I'm sorry but who is Charles Boehm and why should anyone listen to what he has to say?
     
  20. Tony in Quakeland

    Tony in Quakeland Member+

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2003
    Location:
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Country:
    United States
    But you can put players out in a scheme that lets them play to their strengths and have some clear idea of what they are supposed to do. You can make a player selection that leaves you better options off the bench, including some change of pace speed. (Gatt, any one?) Instead you sub one of the slowest guys on the squad, Sahsa (a very good deep mid and passer) and PUT HIM ON THE WING. Really?

    Yes, players got tired. But this disaster lies entirely with the coaching. We never should have been in the position of having to chase the game the last twenty minutes
     
  21. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    Location:
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Country:
    American Samoa
    Hard for Jozy to do much with what he was given today. He played pretty hard considered he was stranded for like 90% of the match.
     
    HartwickFan, deuteronomy and dwsmith1972 repped this.
  22. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2007
    Location:
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Country:
    United States
    Other than Kljestan, did anybody want that?

    And I don't mean that as a slam on Kljestan, who I think gets a lot of crap for being a guy who always has to play out of position, as a sub, for the US. I'd just be shocked if there were more than, say, four people around here who thought Kljestan should get more time on the field.
     
  23. Konut

    Konut Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    United States
    For the record... I didn't want any of this to happen. Jozy was ok, Gonzo was ok, but I'm fairly confident that Herc and Boca in their spots would have led to a better result.
     
  24. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
    Location:
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    Yea. I mean he has promise...but on this team, the way it's being run.... Gomez for me was the clear starter for today. Jozy just doesn't know how to make the most of his runs and energy he uses out there. Ironically, I think he and Gomez would work best together...but you don't play them on the same field away from home.

    Either way... people got to see Jozy finally get a full 90. We'll see more...but today for me, this was the wrong guy playing up top for us.
     
  25. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
    Location:
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Country:
    Bolivia
    I think so... many feel he has been ignored, even though he was one of our players playing at one of the best teams, club wise. I never rated him, but got crap for it. Now I think it's fair, to throw in the towel on him. Time to move on to others...
     
Moderators: dark knight

Share This Page