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USA to host 2016 Copa America

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by btbc, Oct 24, 2012.

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  1. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

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    The last time they did it, the games were hosted in the 3 big cities. La Paz, Cochabamba, and Santa Cruz. Brasil ate every team alive in Santa Cruz, Bolivia played in the Capital, and had some really 'tight' games in their group... and almost lost to mexico in the game before the final! Luis Hernandez was the leading scorer... Ronaldo was killing it though for Brasil when he was in his prime.

    Brasil won the whole thing though, 3-1 in La Paz! So its TRUE! Altititude doesn't quite win games! :p Our team's home record shows that this qualifier.. and last!

    While altitude does play a part, I never believe TRUE professionals are as affected as normal people. Now if you're fat, have high blood pressure... you're going to have some issues.
     
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    Copa America has been A-sides for a while now, with Messi, Aguero, Falcao, Higuain, Suarez, Tevez, Cuadrado, Neymar, Maicon, Robinho, Pato, Thiago Silva, Dani Alves, Ramires, Perea, Yepes, Valencia, Medel, Vidal, Isla, Matias Fernandez, Rosales, Godin, Forlan, Gargano, Cavani, Martin Caceres, Lugano, etc. taking part in the last one.
     
  3. MasterShake29

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    This is bad, as it means the July tournament players get back to their European clubs late.

    Play them simultaneously, with the Copa games at night, and you have the biggest soccer month ever. Which would be super awesome.
     
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    this is correct. the times of the games should be made like this.

    start in late june for the copa and it will work perfectly. game time 6 and 8 pm. perfect.
     


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    The other thing that would help FIFA with the European clubs is the elimination of the single table in World Cup qualifying and a reduction in qualifying games in CONMEBOL. Given the quantity of star players that is probably bigger than anything that could happen in CONCACAF or CAF.
     
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    South America used to have qualification 2 Groups of 5 but decided the Single table was better in the long run.

    Teams can't complain much if everyone is on an even playing field with two games against each opponent.
     
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    agree sout america is more fair then anywhere else
     
  9. autobus39

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    Gulati talks about this in an interview with Grant Wahl on FSC today. The Copa America talk is at 3:15. Basically he says the US will not be involved unless it gets put on the FIFA calendar (allowing the US to gain the release of all of its players).
     
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    Hopefully, FIFA will allow it, but I'm not holding my breath. Even if they host it in the USA, if the US team isn't there, it will get 0 coverage in mainstream American sports media.
     
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    Then what was the whole point of putting it here...? Gulati, use your head.
     
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    Do you really want a 2007 Copa redux on home soil?
     
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    Good point.
     
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    Gulati also compared to hosting the Copa America in the US to him hosting his kid's birthday party at the White House. He says its a nice idea, but there is a lot of work to be done to make it happen.
     
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    Grant Wahl ‏tweets:
    Special 16-team 2016 Copa América in US did not get put on FIFA calendar recently as organizers hoped. Source-"50-50 chance" it will happen.
     
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    Yea. If FIFA don't approve.... this will fall through. Without the abiliity for teams to take their best players... will make this cup worthless.
     
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    Concacaf-Conmebol can make it official for local leagues.

    I mean it would not be the same but a Americas based competition could be ok. The question is if this would still make money.

    I wonder how well would a MLS based squad do vs other "local" squads (MLS plus many Liga MX USA players).
     
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    Youth cup would be cool. Not gonna happen but would be cool nonetheless.
     
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    We would get annihilated.

    Mexico would be pretty good and might win the thing.
     
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    This is going to be like Mexico hosting the Copa's.
     
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    I don't see the US hosting Copa America after all the recent events. Hopefully, the next one won't be a repeat of 2007 if the US sends a team.
     
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    FIFA's in UEFA's pocket. They don't want competition for the Euros.
     
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    Sad
     
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    Counterpoint: if the goal of this Copa America (from CONMEBOL's perspective) is to make boatloads of money in the US, there's no reason that the latest setback should stop them and CONCACAF from making it happen.

    Lest we forget: over 80,000 Mexicans filled up the Cowboys Stadium in 2009 to see their Gold Cup squad play Haiti. HAITI. I'm pretty sure selling tickets to see South American B-teams (in the first Copa America ever held here) would not prove a challenge.
     
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    Exactly. (and that is why it is still 50-50, reportedly, that this competition might come off as planned.)

    The concern is those (about half or more) of the possible games that likely wouldn't feature USA, MEX, Brazil or ARG. How many tickets are they going to sell for a Chile v Panama (or other similar such) match? (and would that matter in the full context of the special tournament?)

    Overall I'm sure the event will be fine to excellent (if it happens), but it will likely be some (significant) impact if the clubs will not have to release players for the event that isn't on FIFA's official calendar.
     
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