Whos better Lampard or Gerrard?

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  1. pfc4life

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    Who better Lampard or Gerrard??

    I feel it is Gerrard


  2. musicl

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    Lampard. More goals, more everything.
  3. choness2004

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    ill give it to Gerrard, pure class and should take in everyones vote here
  4. Prenn

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    Lampard at the moment IMO.

    But don't we have this debate every couple of months?


  5. yasik19

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    yes, this was the most hotly debated topic during WC. I'm so tired of it.
  6. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Easily Gerrard.
  7. Walter3000

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    Dont you mean Paul Scholes?
  8. Matt Clark

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    Paul Scholes is better than both of them, but that's not the point here. And I agree, this debate is boring. We've done it a million times and all agreed Lampard is a fat cunt who is to fluky deflections what Rooney is to geriatric prostitutes.
  9. ej_edges

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    I think people only say Lampard because he scores alot of goals and his name is heard alot more then Gerrards. But Stevie Gerrard also gets his fair share of goals in and is a very good leader at Liverpool. But i think the defensive game of gerrard as well as his attacking style would give him the edge over lampard. You rarely see lampard chasing down players in his defensive half!
  10. Matt Clark

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    Gerrard scored more goals than Lampard last season. And most of them from wide right. And none of them came off someone's arse.

    Like I said, this debate was over ages ago.
  11. Teso Dos Bichos

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  12. Albion + England

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    Gerrard. I can't believe someone can think Lampard is better than him.
  13. Grubic

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    My vote is for Gerrard. While I think Lampard is a good player, I still think he is a bit overhyped.
  14. Matt Clark

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    An overhyped Chelsea player? Surely you jest ...
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    How many of them did he score against the Dog and Duck ... sorry I mean TNS?

    Seriously the goal scoring element is massively in Frank's favour. It can't even be argued really.
  16. AIK Stockholm

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    Both overrated, but Gerrard is the better.
  17. Walter3000

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    And most of Gerrard's were against shit comptetition
  18. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Season 05/06

    Lampard

    2x West Brom (EPL)
    1x Anderlecht (CL)
    2x Aston Villa (EPL)(1 pen)
    1x Liverpool (EPL)(1 pen)
    1x Austria (WCQ)(1 pen)
    1x Poland (WCQ)
    2x Bolton (EPL)
    1x Everton (EPL)
    2x Blackburn (EPL)(1 pen)
    1x Portsmouth (EPL)(1 pen)
    1x Fulham (EPL)
    1x West Ham (EPL)
    1x Everton (EPL)
    1x Everton (FAC)(1 pen)
    1x Portsmouth (EPL)
    1x Barcelona (CL)(1 pen)
    1x Bolton (EPL)
    1x Everton (EPL)
    1x Jamaica (INT)

    Total = 23 goals
    Pen = 7

    EPL = 17 (4 pen)
    FAC = 1 (1 pen)
    LC = 0
    CL = 2 (1 pen)
    WCQ = 2 (1 pen)
    INT = 1
    WC = 0

    Against top ten = 7 (2 pen)
    Against bottom ten = 10 (2 pen)
    Against relegated sides = 2

    ---

    Gerrard

    3x TNS (CL)
    2x TNS (CL)
    1x FBK Kaunas (CL)(1 pen)
    1x FBK Kaunas (CL)
    1x Chelsea (EPL)
    1x Crystal Palace (LC)
    1x Aston Villa (EPL)(1 pen)
    1x Sunderland (EPL)
    1x Newcastle (EPL)
    1x Everton (EPL)
    1x Bolton (EPL)(1 pen)
    1x Luton (FAC)
    1x Portsmouth (FAC)(1 pen)
    1x Birmingham (EPL)
    1x Newcastle (EPL)
    2x Aston Villa (EPL)
    2x West Ham (FAC)
    1x Hungary (INT)
    1x Trinidad (WC)
    1x Sweden (WC)

    Total = 25 goals
    Pen = 4

    EPL = 10 (2 pen)
    FAC = 4 (1 pen)
    LC = 1
    CL = 7 (1 pen)
    WCQ = 0
    INT = 1
    WC =2

    Against top ten = 4 (1 pen)
    Against bottom ten = 6 (1 pen)
    Against relegated sides = 2

    ---

    I was very bored and mildly interested.


    Lampard 23 - 25 Gerrard (overall)
    Lampard 7 - 4 Gerrard (penalties)
    Lampard 16 - 21 (minus penalties)

    Lampard 20 - 22 (club overall)
    Lampard 6 - 4 (club penalties)
    Lampard 3 - 3 Gerrard (country overall)
    Lampard 1 - 0 Gerrard (country penalties)

    Lampard 22 - 18 (minus CLQ, international friendlies)
    Lampard 15 - 14 (minus CLQ, international friendlies and penalties)

    Lampard 7 - 9 Gerrard (minus CLQ, international friendlies, penalties and bottom 10)

    Lampard played 63 times, Gerrard played 64 times (I think)
  19. Teso Dos Bichos

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    No doubt people will spin the above in whatever way they wish or try to pick holes to favour one player or another. I personally rate Gerrard higher because I think he is a better overall player. When you consider the supporting cast each had, the position each played, add a hint of deflection to the mix and then factor in the following when comparing goals scored:

    Then I side with Gerrard. Sad and now very tired bastard signing out...
  20. Walter3000

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    Some more numbers, assists last season in the EPl:
    Lampard-9
    Gerrard-5


    2 seasons ago
    Lampard 23 goals 16 assists
    Gerrarrd 14 goals 5 assists

    3 seasons ago

    Lampard 16 goals 7 assists
    Gerrard 8 goals 7 assists


    This current season
    Lampard-16 goals, 10 assists
    Gerrard 10 goals 6 assists

    total that up for the past 3 1/2 seasons:
    Lampard-71 goals 38 assists
    Gerrard-55 goals 29 assists
  21. Albion + England

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    Yeah i'd have to agree with that. I don't how many of those Lampard goals were deflections but there were quite a few - and when you consider he has approximately 38 shots per match, some are bound to fly in. Really though, Gerrard is the superior all round player. He can get forward to score goals and he can also track back and do the dirty work too to a high standard. He can play pretty much anywhere competently i.e centre mid, out wide or full back. He has a fantastic range of passing and as Tesos said, you have to consider the supporting cast both have. Chelsea undoubtedly have a better squad and the system they play benefits Lampards game as it allows him to play more freely (in an attacking sense) than Gerrard thanks to Makelele sitting behind him. I think Lampard is overrated, same goes for John Terry.
  22. leg_breaker

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    Lampard had a spell last season where everytime he hit the ball on the edge of the box it bounced of three players and went in. When he's not on form he's completely anonymous. He is always allowed to just sit in the D all match waiting for shooting opportunities, Gerrard has to run around the whole park all match.
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    Gerrard could play well in any position (apart from in goal).

    Lampard works well in Mourinho's formation at Chelsea, but that is not to say that he would work well in any other position or in any other system for any other club.

    I would rather have Gerrard in my team, even this season, when it seems that Stevie G's form has deserted him slightly.

    Revelian
  24. Walter3000

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    Who cares how many positions a player can play in. Lampard is asked to be a CM, and in that role produces more than Gerrard, plays more consistently, and hardly ever misses action.

    We have a swiss army knife, Essien.

    And for the record, everyone talking about Gerrard's defending or tracking back is having a laugh, that area of his game has deteriorated to the point, where he's becoming a glorified all out attacking midfielder.
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    Thats wrong on so many levels.

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