Why BeINsport is a failure - Continued

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  1. Dante

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    I only have DirecTV now so no there is no RAI. It's not always 1-2 hour delays, last week was Juve vs Milan Coppa Italia game. The game was shown at 12am on beIN Sport 1.

    I'm not paying extra to subscribe to beIN Sport espanol to watch one, maybe two games a month.

    You were talking about beIN's lack of Championship programming, that's what I was responding to.


  2. BocaFan

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    Well, that's your choice. Milan v Juve was shown live by beIN. They could show it live on both channels, but that sucks for people who paid for both. So in this case, you have no leg to stand on IMO.

    And, yes, I know they do that with La Liga (showing the same game on both channels) and that's a problem. But doing more wrongs doesn't make the situation better.

    Fair enough about the English championship. beIN f'd up there. But not showing FA Cup games is much worse IMO.
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    Tuesdays FA Cup matches are not being broadcast ANYWHERE ... So no Fail on Fox Soccers part

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    The West Brom v QPR game is being streamed through the FA's website exclusively

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    But they are showing an FA Cup game.... tomorrow.
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    Dude, you aren't supposed to mention facts in response to Boca's arguments. That's not fair! Never mind the fact that no one on Earth is televising today's FA Cup replays: Boca says Fox is at fault here and that is MUCH worse than his beloved BeIN not showing any Championship matches during a full holiday schedule just because they didn't want to pay a tech $16.00/hr to monitor a feed.
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    Interesting test coming in a couple of weeks: Real Madrid will play the 12 noon (local time) match on January 27th. beINSport have completely ignored the 6am ET kickoffs. How will they handle this match? Live or delayed??

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    My guess would be live, but a later time repeat.
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    Also a test that day because there are 2 La Liga matches kicking-off at 15:00 CET, neither involving Barca or Real Madrid. beIN will obviously show Bilbao v Atleti live, but on their other channel will they show Mallorca v Malaga or Inter v Torino?
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    Kindly name one commentator besides those on goltv and bein (less Ross, Ian, Rafa and Bodo) that you know who:
    1.Does not properly accentuate the game like it should be done
    2. Does not have a broader and bigger lexicon than ray and phil combined
    3. Whose style of commentary development was in anything other than football.

    If you are a 7year old primary school pupil.

    As far as you are concerned, this makes up for his lack of articulation... Not having that..
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    Limited thinking at best. Clear example why there is a difference between logic and reasoning.
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    If true, this is a good business model how? How many years did he spend with goltv?
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    How so? I have never met someone who hated Ray Hudson. I could see you ripping a lot of the commentators who have been on gol tv, fox, and Bein because there quality is amateurish but come on Ray Hudson is a professional you're not going to win this fight. La Liga and Latin America leagues are marketed at a different demographic and audience. Hudson is a cult Legend in what is a cult sport in this country just accept it. I know people who will watch just because of Ray I don't know why you can't accept people have a connection with him.
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    You want your viewers young I don't see your argument. Marketing soccer to people over 40 who aren't already fans is retarded , are you just trying to use a strawman argument or something?
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    You have totally missed his point. If Hudson was such a huge drawing attraction among the prime 35 and under demographic, and he was the "star voice" of GOL TV, then why has GOL TV been such a minor channel for it's entire life?

    Not a strawman argument in the slightest. Just an argument too complex for a guy who thinks Youtube comments are viable evidence of anything.
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    Gol Tv failed because Soccer is a niche sport in this country and because they had to much crappy personnel on there, pretty basic. Nothing that was in Ray Hudsons power effected the outcome of that station get real. Oprah can't even start a station and turn a profit and you blame gol tvs failure on Ray Hudson? You guys hate Ray Hudson to much its scary. Gol TV had a pretty good run i'm thankful for it.
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    If people are going to hate, it is usually on youtube pretty basic stuff. Especially the senseless and obsessive hate I have seen from a few posters on here. Usually that is the kind of stuff you find on youtube.
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    NO GolTv failed because it couldn't attract the casual viewer of these leagues. I would watch la liga more often if it weren't for the Fatman and Hudson....but most fans Are turned off by there commentary style... It's not professional it's not serious.. It's amateur hour at its best. I have polled tons of people and they all are of the same opinion.. Who wants to watch a game with these two in the booth. Again too polarizing to be your face of BeIn Sport...

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    Old Teflon Ray can do no wrong in your eyes. Why, it seems you think that without Ray, no one would have watched GOL TV at all.

    I get that you like Hudson's "style." Why can't you and the rest of the Hudson defenders at least admit he is a polarizing figure, and not just among posters on these boards? Do you honestly think there are only a few of us on Earth who can't stand the man's theatrics, find him distracting and unprofessional, and can barely endure his non-stop spewing of platitudes and the obvious under the guise of expert commentary?

    Again, I understand that you and some others dig the guy. What I can't understand is that you refuse to admit that what you like about him is what we hate about him. Or is that concept just too difficult for you to grasp?
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    3 guys don't like him on big soccer so what? There are probably 20 people on here who think Pep Guardiola sucks, doesn't mean he or Ray are all that polarizing.
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    How old are you? honest question
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    You are the minority... Not us

    Given a chance to PICK your commentary feed of choice... I guarantee Hudson and Schoenberg would be at the bottom.

    BeIN:FAIL

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    Really!!!! You asking ME that question hahahha

    Your the HUdson fan titulated by his Orgasmic commentary

    Too funny

    Nuff said.. Really buff said

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    Provide any statistical evidence to the contrary, you are the minority. I never said Shoen and Hudson are A plus stop twisting words. I asked how old you were as honest demographic information, which I already addressed in previous posts.
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    To blame this on Ray is absurd. Even MLS has trouble attracting your average American to the league.
    A reminder: ESPN had La Liga rights for the longest time up until 2012. It's not just GolTV that failed to attract the casual viewer.

    Again, nobody cares. You're the minority. I've only met 1 person who dislikes Ray Hudson. And I watch every Barca game with anywhere between 30 to 200 other people.
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