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YNT-eligible ('93 and later) players in U.S. lower divisions

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Feb 12, 2014.

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  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    To expand upon a post from the U20 thread -- perhaps it's time to start this as an experiment and see where it leads.

    We've recently seen a couple of YNT-eligible signings for 2014, and perhaps there will be (or already have been) more. Let's try tracking them here.

    '95 David Leichty, OKC Energy, USL Pro
    http://www.sportingkc.com/news/2014...hty-signs-professional-contract-okc-energy-fc

    '96 Mawolo Gissie, Sacramento Republic, USL Pro
    http://www.sacrepublicfc.com/republ...braun-teen-phenom-mawolo-gissie/#.UvvKdxBdV7c
     


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    No idea what Tyler Turner's plans are, but he's played a bit with Orlando City this pre-season.
     
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    The Bowen is Travis Bowen, Tristan's older brother. Neither obviously eligible for the thread.
     
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    LA Galaxy II ‏@LAGalaxyII 1m
    New lineup for the second half: Laurendi; Borrajo, Nishanian, Emory, Arreola; Courtois, Covarrubias, Djokovic, Campos; Griffin, Villarreal

    Jaime Villareal starts the second half after coming on in the 32nd minute for Travis Bowen.
     
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    Courtois?
     
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    I don't mean to make this a PBP thread but
    LA Galaxy II ‏@LAGalaxyII 40m
    Curt Onalfo makes another change as Villarreal leaves the match and @LAGalaxyAcademy forward Adonis Amaya enters the fray. #LosDos

    LA Galaxy II ‏@LAGalaxyII 14m
    .@LAGalaxyAcademy forward Adonis Amoya has looked dangerous since he came on & he’s come close to getting on the scoresheet in the 2nd half.

    LA Galaxy II ‏@LAGalaxyII 12m
    #LAGalaxy II sub: Fresno-native and @LAGalaxyAcademy product Elijah Martin comes into the match for Adonis Amaya.

    LA Galaxy II ‏@LAGalaxyII 7m
    Full time in Fresno as #LAGalaxy II defeat the @fresnofuego 2-1 in their inaugural match. #LosDos
     
  10. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    Video on LAG website says he is player/coach, probably helping Onalfo.
     
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  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    By the way -- do people have feelings about which, if any, leagues outside of USL Pro or NASL should be included here?

    My instinct says that might be enough -- we could maybe consider a PDL/NPSL thread separately, since those players will be numerous but not professional.

    I could be convinced otherwise.
     
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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    G2 lineup against G, YNT-eligible in bold. I think I got everyone:

    41-Cody Laurendi, 36-Oscar Sorto (46’: 37-Matheau Hall), 44-Daniel Steres (77’: 62-Elijah Martin), 53-Bradley Diallo (57’: 43-Logan Emory), 55-Jason Bli (46’: 49-Eder Arreola), 58- Aleksandar Djokovic (46’: 56-Laurent Courtois), 48-Dragen Stojkov (51’: 57-Alejandro Covarrubias), 25-Rafael Garcia (55’: 72-Lee Nishanian), 38-Bradford Jamieson IV (46’: 50-Travis Bowen), 32-Jack McBean (46’: 63-Maxwell Griffin), 40- Raul Mendiola (65’: 45-Adonis Amaya)

    DNP: 64- Nicholas Shackelford, 68-Josh Cohen, 66-Joe Franco, 65-Jaime Villarreal, 45-Aaron Lombardi

    http://www.lagalaxy.com/news/2014/0...white-vs-blue-match-3-0-win-over-la-galaxy-ii
     
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    Strong statements from Todd Durbin:

    "The idea was to begin transitioning away from our reserve league and to begin developing and building out this relationship so we could have a properly functioning, sort of lower-level [league] for our developing players to participate in," said Todd Durbin, the executive vice president of player relations for MLS. "Because you're now playing against professional teams as opposed to players that are essentially in your same age group.

    "The future is not with our reserve league. The future is with participating in USL Pro."

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    More important, though, is the opportunity the USL Pro team will provide for teenagers such as Jack McBean and Oscar Sorto who, rather than spending the summer on the Galaxy sidelines or playing a handful of reserve league games on a practice field, will now start as many as two dozen challenging games in front of fans for Galaxy II.​

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-soccer-baxter-20140223,0,4144955.story#ixzz2uFxvHJhP

    That last statement (that McBean and Sorto can count on two dozen first-team USL starts this year) seems ambitious but not impossible. Worth tracking, because it will say a lot about the club's goals for the squad.
     
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    It's a 28 game season so 24 starts seems possible. From the looks of it, the Galaxy will be agressive in playing some of their youngsters, although with less involvement with the lower end of the first team roster than I thought there would be.

    Onalfo said something along the lines of "If we're winning all our games then we're doing something wrong and should be playing younger players". So they might start out conservatively but then play the youngsters as much as possible if they can handle it.
     
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    Here's a take on Sporting KC's lower-division affiliations from the USL web site, which says (unsurprisingly, I suppose) of '93 GK Jonathan Kempin:

    With veteran MLS goalkeepers Eric Kronberg and Andy Gruenebaum likely in front of him on the SKC depth chart this season, the opportunity may come for Kempin to join his former teammate in Oklahoma City as wellas he continues to look for competitive minutes to continue his development. To have that opportunity - or the chance to return to Orlando - is one that Kempin would welcome.

    “Yeah, I would enjoy it, whether it’s Oklahoma City or maybe Orlando City again,” Kempin said. “Whatever it may be, I’m definitely open to another loan spell if that’s what Peter and the rest of the coaching staff want for me.”
    http://uslsoccer.com/home/790366.html
     
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    Nice catch. He's a '96, so eligible for the U20 cycle.

    When Turner joined the Residency program, he had previously been a center midfielder for Development Academy club South Central Premier and looked up to Arsenal’s Jack Wilshire, his favorite player on his favorite team. But U-17 MNT head coach Wilmer Cabrera saw Turner as a centerback, and he has adjusted well to the new position.
    http://www.ussoccer.com/news/u-17-mnt/2011/12/turner-in-focus.aspx#sthash.rKAe5mye.dpuf

    The Sentinel piece above, however, calls him an outside back:

    The 5-foot-11, 155-pound outside back is rated the No. 11 overall player in the 2014 class by Top Drawer Soccer and the No. 2 defender in his class.

    Turner started at outside back for Orlando City in a 4-4 draw with the Columbus Crew on Wednesday night and has trained through portions of preseason with the club.​
     
  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

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    Didn't he play in the middle (CB and maybe also some DM) for the U17s? In any case, it seems Orlando is moving him to RB, as the Sentinel article indicates. Since I've mostly seen him (in limited action) in central positions it's hard to picture him as a raiding fullback, but he's young and obviously Orlando has thought about this. Anyway, he's young -- who knows?
     
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    Yeah, you are right. I deleted my post because I realized that I was wrong.
     
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    With all these YNT players signing directly with USL teams from HS, we have entered a brave, new world in the development of American soccer.
     
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    Yup. One wonders if a US youth international could actually get more money signing with a USLPro/NASL team than signing the 35-40k deal that many homegrown MLS kids get. You'd have to be a youth prospect of some notoriety to manage it, but why not? The San Antonio Scorpions have some cash. Why not make a play for Alfred Koroma (just thinking of a former youth nat that's a Texas "native.")
     
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    My understanding (based on things like this thread) is that the average USL pro salaries are in the $20-30k range. I don't think most youth nats are going to be more valuable to a team than a solid pro 10 years older. Especially because the vast majority of D3 players are on single year contracts, meaning that the team isn't likely to be able to sell them to recoup their money.
     
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    Yeah, count me as skeptical on this one. I think that Orlando City is signing players because of the club's MLS future, not for its USL present.
     
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